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Old 01-09-2009, 08:13 AM   #252 (permalink)
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Oddly enough, I'd consider those to be individual rights.
How would the right to assemble count as an individual right? Granted, it depends on the context...

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I guess I should clarify. I'm more concerned with upholding rights than with protecting people from any annoying effects of those rights.
And I'm more concerned with the ability of US citizen's to regulate detrimental, constitutionally unprotected behavior.

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Nope. Is there data concerning potential benefits of discrimination that you alluded to?
See Southern Slavery. Though admittedly, they did get a bit burned.

There's about a mile long stretch of Park avenue just outside of downtown Minneapolis where black people just weren't allowed in the early part of last century (I'm not sure exactly about the time range here). For many of the people who lived there that was part of its appeal. I don't have hard data about the amount of money made, but I'm pretty certain that a considerable amount of money was made in conjunction with keeping black people out of this area.

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Like what?
To get topical:

The right to not be discriminated against based on race/gender/ethnicity/ancestry/sexual orientation when one is trying to find an apartment.

The right to go to a restaurant without being exposed to cigarette smoke.

What, you've never heard of these rights? Well geez, they are just as valid as rights as the right of private businesspeople to decide what goes on in their private businesses.

Perhaps it is better to just consider them individual rights. In fact, pretend I never mentioned collective rights at all, they aren't really all that important to what I'm trying to say.
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