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Old 01-09-2009, 07:33 AM   #251 (permalink)
Telluride
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There are a lot of them. Look up The Bill of Rights if you want to see some.
Oddly enough, I'd consider those to be individual rights.

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No, you're just deluding yourself. Rights are meaningful because they have effects. To claim that you're just concerned about rights and not effects doesn't make any sense. Will you fight to preserve my right to shoot laser beams out of my eyes at invisible chocolate bears?
I guess I should clarify. I'm more concerned with upholding rights than with protecting people from any annoying effects of those rights.

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Perhaps in some contexts it will, but I bet you don't have any sort of solid data concerning the burn rate of discriminatory businesses.
Nope. Is there data concerning potential benefits of discrimination that you alluded to?

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That's convenient. All I'm saying is that by only focusing on rights guaranteed to individuals, you actually are missing out on a lot of important rights.
Like what?
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