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Originally Posted by Crompsin
I concur. Most (tempted to say all, somebody tell me what type of upstanding, educated citizen joins such an organization?) militia-types seem to be fascist-echoing blue collar Nazi wankers. They don't just fear the government, they fear skin pigmentation, social equality (all dem homuhseckuhls gonna burn in hell!) and a world that isn't down on its knees for (white) Jesus. Guns are their security blanket much in the way the dorky goth kids in the late '90s used to wear a lot of spiked jewelry: "I'm a pussy, but I'm a spiked pussy who aspires to look dangerous to others (but mostly just myself - boohoo)."
I get your point. I suppose my follow-up to that would be: I hope there are more decent people with guns at that point than nutjobs.
Fear not. If the militia-types were to come to power... I'd be in a slit trench crumpled up next to your bearded self with my gun taken from my "cold dead hands." Just because I own firearms doesn't mean I'm "in the club" with a bunch of GI Bubbas. I'm more of a threat to the fascists because I own guns (and because I don't believe their bullshit party line). The ideology is the same regardless of who is in "power" at the time: people with guns are dangerous to us and we should stop them, ya know, protect society from 'em. Even the "good" guys do it and it's perfectly understandable: you can't "push" a man with a gun as far as a man without one. Guns are magical talismans of rights... people feel like they have more rights when they have them even though Molotov cocktails and lead pipes are often just as effective (see: Africa vs. any invading force in the 1900s). Gun solutions are for people who missed MacGyver.
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Much like the class war element, I want to dispel the "good guy" and "bad guy" thing from guns. I can say it a million times but it doesn't seem to come across just right. Guns don't do anything. Heroes and idiots do things. When a hero uses a gun... they make a John Wayne movie about it. When an idiot uses a gun? We get nervous legislation. In both cases: the gun didn't do anything. Silly people use guns are "bad things happened" scapegoats.
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Regarding militias, my observation has been that there are two types of people who join them:
1) Libertarian types who simply want the government to leave them alone. These are basically the "Founding Father"-ideology militias.
2) Fascist types who like big government...just not the big government advocated by their political foes. This is where you get the Neo-Nazis and that sort.
If fascists came into power, I'd be in the trenches with you and the bearded person you were talking about.