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Originally Posted by Telluride
What are some of these "collective rights"?
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There are a lot of them. Look up The Bill of Rights if you want to see some.
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I'm more concerned with rights than effects.
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No, you're just deluding yourself. Rights are meaningful because they have effects. To claim that you're just concerned about rights and not effects doesn't make any sense. Will you fight to preserve my right to shoot laser beams out of my eyes at invisible chocolate bears?
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Possibly so, but blatant discrimination against race/ethnicity/gender/etc. will burn business owners more often than it helps them.
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Perhaps in some contexts it will, but I bet you don't have any sort of solid data concerning the burn rate of discriminatory businesses.
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I have no objection to self-regulation to whatever extent that it exists, but my motive here is property rights. I'm looking for ways to protect individual rights, not punish people who use their rights in ways that I dislike.
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That's convenient. All I'm saying is that by only focusing on rights guaranteed to individuals, you actually are missing out on a lot of important rights.