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Old 01-04-2009, 08:45 AM   #82 (permalink)
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I was waiting for something like this to happen before Bush left the White House. Part of the resolve of this situation are that the expectations be that Iran will see the carnage and get involved. Israel and the Bushco are just itching for an excuse to draw the Iranians in. Unfortunately, the US inaugerations are a month away, so there is plenty of time for more. Really to bad for all the innocent people involved
A search has not revealed the launch of planes by "Bushco." Link to said slaughter of innocents by the US?


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what do you think the obama administration should do relative to this situation?

i think the incoming administration should immediately begin reversing the bush administration's policy toward israel with respect to gaza. it should be carried out on both human rights grounds and with arguments concerning the political damage this situation is doing to israel itself. you'll notice in the ei coverage linked above that a dominant term for referring to what israel has defaulted into by following the logic that it has been following is apartheid. this association is of great concern to many israelis, and for obvious reasons.


I think the US should go back to the neutrality that was in place when Clinton was in office. The balance between the Israelis and Palestinians was proportional. Now it is very onesided. I don't see Obama changing the aid equation that much, simply because AIPAC won't let him. And if he does significantly, no matter how good his performance as president, he will be relegated to one term because of it.
Five more years of Hamas lobbing rockets at Israeli civilians? YES WE CAN!

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i doubt very seriously that iran can or will do anything, particularly given that the bush people have made it abundantly clear that they'd love to launch some planes. but at the same time, the problem with that is that the american military is already overstretched---so "we" are not in a position to keep a lid on the consequences that would follow from such an action-reaction sequence. i don't see a regional conflagration--which would be the result of that---serving anyone's interests anywhere.

Your statement indicates that Bush's policies have accomplished their goal of preventing conflict from Iran. "Diplomacy," on the part of Israel, has resulted in the rockets launched by Hamas.

Hamas will laugh at negotiation attempts by Obama. They will scorn overtures from Hillary. Bill MIGHT achieve some success with them (because they are not going to listen to Hillary), but only if he has the authority to give them "the farm," a la N. Korea.
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