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Old 12-31-2008, 10:41 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Deltona Couple View Post
WOW...I didnt expect to have to wear a fire retardent suit to make this thread..lol....almost seems like it's an attack on me cause I like my van.

No, not at all. People who want family haulers should be able to get your hands on them. You should be able to drive your van if you want. But, had Detroit been doing what it should have for 3 decades, you'd be using a lot less gas to do it. There is, btw, a distinction between people like you, who apparently need to get 6 people at once into a vehicle, and people like my neighbor, who lives alone but has a jacked up Excursion that at most carries 2 people at a time.




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I need something larger to fit us, that is comfortable for the road trips we make often. and my van does it.

Yes, and that's justified. Now wouldn't it be nice if your van did it and got 20mpg more than it does now? It's doable. Hell I used to drive a full sized van, back when the Fords came with the V6 and got 600 miles per tank. Now the most efficient engine you can get is the V8 that gets between 11 and 15mpg. For work we have a V10 (which also is not necssary, but it's the only engine that live trucks come with these days) and you can almost watch the fuel gauge go down when you hit the throttle.



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OK, a nice vehicle, the Tesla, but personally I dont want to spend the 109K price tag attatched, and neither would most of your average people.
Quite true. When the car was first invented it was just as inaccessible to the majority of people. but by mass producing it and putting effort into making a product that worked and worked for an efficient cost, now almost everyone has a car.

Electric cars are going to stay absurdly expensive (except, again, for the Zaps, which are quite reasonable if you're willing to have a pretty barebones car) until they are produced on a scale that makes them more economical to manufacture. And that isn't going to happen until serious R&D is put into it, and until the majors get behind it.

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and as far as the Zap, sorry, but I cant even maintain legal highway speeds in that thing.
Didn't say you could. I mentioned Zap because they're slow and have very short range, yet they're able to be sold here. Therefore the government is not stopping people from selling electric vehicles just because they have short range


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Actually you are wrong. according to Tesla's own website, they said thier batteries are expected to last 5 years, not the 10 required by the government for acceptance for the mass production of the electric cars. Not I applaud them for what they have done, I am just saying that what is required has not yet been met.
I'm not wrong. I never said Tesla had a 10 year battery.
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