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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
How about this for a question- take out the top and bottom 10% of restaurants in Chicago. That leaves 80% of them, would you pay to eat at one of them?
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Hell yes! Chicago has the best restaurants in the country if you ask me.
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What does this have to do with whether or not the person in question increase or decreased the educational system in Chicago? Nothing as far as I know. But it probably has the same relevance as the blurb you posted.
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They don't publish the information you really need to analyze the Chicago Public School System as a whole. You certainly can look at the data they do publish (biased just as you think the data I give is and does not give comparative information to other districts), you could look at rating websites often related to general area demographics (like I did), or the National Assessment of Education Progress data (which also has flaws), but I would generally measure the effectiveness of a district based on the disbursements or ranges from the mean or the standard deviations. When we take the middle 80% we are only looking at about 1.5 standard deviations from the mean. A school district being run well will have a tight distribution in my opinion. Chicago's is wide, meaning they have many good schools and they have many poorly performing schools, almost making the mean meaningless if you were faced with a random selection. It also means that those managing those schools either don't care about the school performing poorly or they don't know how to fix them. there are many school districts and systems in this country where the differences or the range between poorly performing schools and those performing well is small, even when there is a diverse population of students and income levels.
So, short of me going to Chicago and going through their raw data, there is no way for me to objectively prove to your satisfaction what everyone who is paying attention already knows.
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So, after asking twice now and getting basically anecdotal claims and gibberish for answers, I take you don't have any actual facts or data to support you're claim he's done nothing to improve the Chicago public school system.
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I throw up the white flag. But, for the record I would never enroll a child of mine in a Chicago Public School.
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Originally Posted by roachboy
... though you seem to have trouble simply saying it "nope, i don't like the guy."
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Nope, I don't like the guy.