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Plan9 · 12-17-2008, 05:02 PM

Say what? Steel buckshot?

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"Wrong ammo in the chamber / tube" drill I use for the Remington 870.

0. Get behind a position that will mask your profile (don't advertise with the gun while fumbling). Concealment required, cover preferred, if neither... take a knee.

1. Suddenly determine the ammo in the chamber and mag tube isn't appropriate for the target at hand. Release firing hand from pistol grip and depress the slide release in front of the trigger guard with the firing hand (usually palm in a backwards sweep).

2. Move the firing hand up and back to cover the ejection port with palm, rotate the gun at an angle to engage gravity's help with the support hand, jack the slide back with the buttstock against your body (I use my left hip). You should now have two unwanted rounds sitting in your firing hand. Pocket ejected rounds or leave on ground. Since both rounds are unfired and relatively smooth, they should fall out without issue. If not, a quick shake will dump 'em. Keep the muzzle upwards during this activity or you may accidentally chamber one of the floating unwanted rounds (which would jam the gun if you tried to stuff another one in the ejection port later).

3. Put the buttstock where it sits on hip or wherever is appropriate to engage the help of gravity in loading. Not necessarily upright, but so the ejection port is at 4 o'clock. This will allow for a natural feed motion as your hand retrieves the desired ammo from the stock, side saddle or pouch.

4. Go for appropriate ammo from buttstock / pouch / side saddle / clenched teeth, laying desired shell with the brass end to the "karate chop" bottom side of the hand, business end towards trigger finger knuckle, fingers and thumbs extended and joined but curved into a tight "tiger paw" to prevent the round from sliding around.

5. Slap round into upright ejection port via "bitch-owes-me-money" method. This means hitting the round into the ejection port so the ejection port is entirely covered by human hand meat for a moment. I've found finger-cradling it in may lead to fumbling like it (or bouncing it off the upturned feed fork if your gun does this). This works pretty well. Because you're using your whole hand and making contact with the ejection port like the lid on a Tupperware, if you don't have the round perfectly aligned, a simple direction-appropriate swiping motion will get the round in the hole. Finger methods aren't as reliable, IMO.

6. Regain control of pistol grip, push slide forward, ensuring everything feeds smoothly, shoulder the weapon.

7. Adjust black stripe over your eyes.

8. Engage target.

Hope the above made sense.

You could also just stuff your thumb up against the next round in the tube, rack the slide and get the same effect. Empty chamber and empty fork with tube still loaded. I use this method for the "tube loaded chamber empty" situation where I already know what I've got in the chamber isn't what I wanna blast somebody with at the moment: home invasion of zombies warrants more than rubber buckshot.

Enough babbling. Zillion ways to do shotgun load drills. I'm an unskilled n00b here... so take it for what it's worth.

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Benelli? Nice! Oversized bolt knob is crucial on the Benelli. I was thinking about getting a M1 Super 90 for 3 gun (Rock River AR and USP).

Too bad that the gun grab fever is going on and a M1 is going for more than my soul at this moment.

12-17-2008, 05:02 PM	#87 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Say what? Steel buckshot? ... "Wrong ammo in the chamber / tube" drill I use for the Remington 870. 0. Get behind a position that will mask your profile (don't advertise with the gun while fumbling). Concealment required, cover preferred, if neither... take a knee. 1. Suddenly determine the ammo in the chamber and mag tube isn't appropriate for the target at hand. Release firing hand from pistol grip and depress the slide release in front of the trigger guard with the firing hand (usually palm in a backwards sweep). 2. Move the firing hand up and back to cover the ejection port with palm, rotate the gun at an angle to engage gravity's help with the support hand, jack the slide back with the buttstock against your body (I use my left hip). You should now have two unwanted rounds sitting in your firing hand. Pocket ejected rounds or leave on ground. Since both rounds are unfired and relatively smooth, they should fall out without issue. If not, a quick shake will dump 'em. Keep the muzzle upwards during this activity or you may accidentally chamber one of the floating unwanted rounds (which would jam the gun if you tried to stuff another one in the ejection port later). 3. Put the buttstock where it sits on hip or wherever is appropriate to engage the help of gravity in loading. Not necessarily upright, but so the ejection port is at 4 o'clock. This will allow for a natural feed motion as your hand retrieves the desired ammo from the stock, side saddle or pouch. 4. Go for appropriate ammo from buttstock / pouch / side saddle / clenched teeth, laying desired shell with the brass end to the "karate chop" bottom side of the hand, business end towards trigger finger knuckle, fingers and thumbs extended and joined but curved into a tight "tiger paw" to prevent the round from sliding around. 5. Slap round into upright ejection port via "bitch-owes-me-money" method. This means hitting the round into the ejection port so the ejection port is entirely covered by human hand meat for a moment. I've found finger-cradling it in may lead to fumbling like it (or bouncing it off the upturned feed fork if your gun does this). This works pretty well. Because you're using your whole hand and making contact with the ejection port like the lid on a Tupperware, if you don't have the round perfectly aligned, a simple direction-appropriate swiping motion will get the round in the hole. Finger methods aren't as reliable, IMO. 6. Regain control of pistol grip, push slide forward, ensuring everything feeds smoothly, shoulder the weapon. 7. Adjust black stripe over your eyes. 8. Engage target. Hope the above made sense. You could also just stuff your thumb up against the next round in the tube, rack the slide and get the same effect. Empty chamber and empty fork with tube still loaded. I use this method for the "tube loaded chamber empty" situation where I already know what I've got in the chamber isn't what I wanna blast somebody with at the moment: home invasion of zombies warrants more than rubber buckshot. Enough babbling. Zillion ways to do shotgun load drills. I'm an unskilled n00b here... so take it for what it's worth. ... Benelli? Nice! Oversized bolt knob is crucial on the Benelli. I was thinking about getting a M1 Super 90 for 3 gun (Rock River AR and USP). Too bad that the gun grab fever is going on and a M1 is going for more than my soul at this moment. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake." Last edited by Plan9; 12-17-2008 at 05:58 PM..