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roachboy · 12-11-2008, 04:50 AM

powerclown, there was no attack meant in that post.

i simply posed a problem. i'll boil it down a bit further for you: the nra position makes living in a city less safe. it might make individuals feel safer, but that comes at the cost of increasing the likelihood of damage being done as unintentional consequence. i don't imagine that to the be intent of an absolutist position about gun control law---if it is, that's a Problem (khymer rouge anyone?)---i imagine that most gown owners who oppose controls altogether do so for reasons that are connected to areas of control, that is they want to be strapped to feel safer or to deal with fear---this obtains for the people who do more than target shoot or hunt, but who carry to "manage" situations---all i am saying is that it is this assertion of control within a chaotic situation that creates the problem i am talking about, simply because not all bullets hit their target.

so in a densely populated area, the "right" to assert control using a weapon, which may make the strapped individual feel safer, comes with the correlate of making the rest of us, who are living in cities and going about our lives, feel that we are less safe. in the course of my life, i've come to know maybe a half dozen people who've been shot. of them, 1 knew where the bullet came from.

on a parallel track, i doubt seriously that a hunter in his right mind would pursue a deer---say---into a town and shoot at it on the streets of that town for the same reasons--unintended consequences in a situation of greater population density.

my main point is that folk's positions about this question typically are functions of associations, and those associations are functions of where they live, of their experience. the other point is that given a self-evident divergence in everyday experience within and without a city, you'd think that there'd be no real basis for opposing locally divergent degrees and types of gun control. this seems an issue where local control is appropriate, don't you think?

12-11-2008, 04:50 AM	#196 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	powerclown, there was no attack meant in that post. i simply posed a problem. i'll boil it down a bit further for you: the nra position makes living in a city less safe. it might make individuals feel safer, but that comes at the cost of increasing the likelihood of damage being done as unintentional consequence. i don't imagine that to the be intent of an absolutist position about gun control law---if it is, that's a Problem (khymer rouge anyone?)---i imagine that most gown owners who oppose controls altogether do so for reasons that are connected to areas of control, that is they want to be strapped to feel safer or to deal with fear---this obtains for the people who do more than target shoot or hunt, but who carry to "manage" situations---all i am saying is that it is this assertion of control within a chaotic situation that creates the problem i am talking about, simply because not all bullets hit their target. so in a densely populated area, the "right" to assert control using a weapon, which may make the strapped individual feel safer, comes with the correlate of making the rest of us, who are living in cities and going about our lives, feel that we are less safe. in the course of my life, i've come to know maybe a half dozen people who've been shot. of them, 1 knew where the bullet came from. on a parallel track, i doubt seriously that a hunter in his right mind would pursue a deer---say---into a town and shoot at it on the streets of that town for the same reasons--unintended consequences in a situation of greater population density. my main point is that folk's positions about this question typically are functions of associations, and those associations are functions of where they live, of their experience. the other point is that given a self-evident divergence in everyday experience within and without a city, you'd think that there'd be no real basis for opposing locally divergent degrees and types of gun control. this seems an issue where local control is appropriate, don't you think? __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite Last edited by roachboy; 12-11-2008 at 04:52 AM..