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Originally Posted by Halx
I understand that we have the 2nd amendment. I understand the term "slippery slope." I understand freedom. Believe me, the less the government meddles with our personal lives, the better. My question is just... why guns? Why does it seem that guns are the fulcrum of personal freedom debate? Why is the gun lobby so much more vocal than the gay lobby or the sex lobby or the abortion lobby or the drug lobby? The government has their hands in all of these things that are far less volatile, and is smothering them. Yet we have the gun argument, which is louder and more influential.
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I believe everyone here can attest to my protestations against ANY government meddling whether it's guns or gay marriage, or anything else for that matter. I do get your point though and as i've debated many times on this and other boards that a person without a gun is a subject while a person with a gun is free to choose.
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
Okay, so the right to life, liberty, and property has limits. Thanks.
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Thats not what the 5th says. It says that they cannot be deprived of them without due process of law. HUGE difference. I think you know this.
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Last edited by dksuddeth; 12-09-2008 at 12:26 PM..
Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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