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Old 12-06-2008, 08:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
dksuddeth
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Originally Posted by hannukah harry View Post
when parents can't afford to give their children nutritious breakfasts (because it's a lot easier for low income parents to buy sugary cereal or pop tarts, etc, than nutritious foods), having the system do it for them is better.

but it wasn't my point you were commenting on. and i couldn't really care about that particular issue. your comment seems to be that if it was good enough for you, it's good enough for everyone else. which is a bit of a bullshit statement.
I'm not saying that if it was good enough for me, it's good enough for them. I'm saying that they have the exact same opportunities to succeed that I did. I had a mother that worked 3 part time jobs, paid for a house, put me in school, and maintained a relation with the school to ensure I did what I needed to. I did my part by working 2 part time jobs to get money to buy my own school clothes and supplies AND graduate.

I had alot of disadvantages, not unlike alot of the current kids dropping out. If I can make it, they can too. It's all about taking the easiest route for them and if that is their choice, they deserve to deal with the consequences of their decisions.
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Originally Posted by dc_dux View Post
There are numerous examples around the country that have demonstrated that greater upfront investments in early education, particularly to improve socialization and basic learning skills, supplemented by other education reforms in the K-12 years (ie smaller class sizes, more parent-teacher interaction, etc) have resulted in fewer drop-outs....and fewer drops-outs results in less crime, less welfare, less strain on the health care system, etc.
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There is something wrong, and IMO, very short-sighted, with a system that invests more in prisons than schools, particularly when the evidence is compelling that greater investment in the latter could result in the need for less investment in the former over time.
welcome to the new america, 1929-current. the creation of the public school system was supposed to enhance education. The creation of the department of education was supposed to streamline and make more effective that same public school system. Higher taxes, charities, government programs...all created to enhance public education, yet look where it's gone? throwing even MORE money is going to fix it this time? not bloody likely.

You want to change the success/failure ratio of education? show the country what happens when you decide to give up.
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Last edited by dksuddeth; 12-06-2008 at 08:53 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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