It is my view that the views mostly expressed in this thread are not based upon clear thinking, but instead gender bias.
I have been asked many questions and have done my best to answer them.
I ask one question - do those who have posted claims that these actions are rape or serious crimes really have the courage of your convictions.
If you step outside of this being a debate, do you really want to see these girls spend significant time in prison and potentially have their lives destroyed - because of these actions? Actions which I intrepret as AT WORST being unpleasant pranks, and realistically in most cases being over excited horseplay.
Let us have a true understanding of what has happened.
There are NO reports of injuries suffered
There is ONE instance of a CLAIM made that someone had a finger slipped up their bum. The rest of the claims amount to little more than horsing around. (ie - patting the guy on the butt, laying in bed next to him, splooshing water at him, etc)
The men have not been physically harmed, and the sum of the complaint is that these old men, who are gravely ill and have probably had very little sexual activity in a great time have been exposed to sexualised horseplay by a bunch of pretty teenage girls.
I dont say this in a flippant way, but as I stand now, if you would tell me that at 90 when I was on my last legs and vulnerable, a 19 year old nurse would dry hump me - I would NOT complain. If I knew a male relative of mine was exposed to this, I would NOT complain on his behalf. Whether you want to admit it or not, most people in the world feel the same way.
-----Added 5/12/2008 at 02 : 36 : 51-----
Quote:
Originally Posted by SecretMethod70
And it is abundantly clear that that is all you read. Especially considering one of the studies talks about how men can become sexually aroused despite being unwilling. It is a biological response, plain and simple.
|
Whether you find a study that says this thing is neither here nor there, because every man in this world knows that arrousal is not a purelt biological and automatic response.
I can tell you for a fact that I know that a pretty girl and an unattractive girl doing the same thing results in different responses in terms of arrousal. I know that if I watched a pornographic video with a pretty girl I would get an erection, and if I watched a pornographic video with two dudes I would not. I know that is a girl I wanted gave me a lapdance I would get an erection, and if a 16 stone, 5 foot tall, bald headed 50 year old women gave me a lapdance, I wouldnt. I know for a fact that if a girl put her hand on my lap it would arrouse me, and if a man did it wouldnt.
The problem with quoting this study and that study and then claiming because some academic writes something its a fact is that ignores reality and common sense. Our experience and own lives tell us these basic truths in relation to this matter.