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Strange Famous · 12-04-2008, 01:39 PM

What FF is an important point, and should not be under-estimated. Empathy is an important factor in all of our moral judgments. I have to say that if I place myself in the place of the men in this home, I feel the same as FF does - I would not be complaining. That may sound flippant, but its genuinely my empathetic interpretation. Everyone might not agree, but I believe that many people, and in fact the majority of people, would.

I dont know how anyone can accuse me of sexism. I am an ardent feminist and supporter of women's rights.

I have never said that men cannot be the victim or rape or sexual assault. I understand that homosexual sexual assaults can take place, and I certainly understand that many men may feel a stigma in reporting these crimes - which society must address, and make clear that being a victim is not a thing to be ashamed of.

I am only stating that there are hardly any real cases of a female sexually assaulting an adult male - not that men cannot be victims of sexual assault at all.

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I think people throw around moral judgments in a very black and white way. Is it really what we want for these young girls to have their lives ruined because of these juvenile and childish actions? If you want to take a legalistic view - yes, some of the actions could be seen as assault. But I call upon everyone to place themselves in this situation and think honestly. As an old man, gravely ill, with declining powers - would you REALLY feel you were a victim if an attractive 19 year old vigoursly rubbed your crotch or stuck her ass in your face?

You can say "the law written down forbids this action which can be interprated in this way" - but if we speak of real common sense justice - can you put your hand on your heart and say in the situation of one of these men you would consider yourself a victim?

12-04-2008, 01:39 PM	#58 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	What FF is an important point, and should not be under-estimated. Empathy is an important factor in all of our moral judgments. I have to say that if I place myself in the place of the men in this home, I feel the same as FF does - I would not be complaining. That may sound flippant, but its genuinely my empathetic interpretation. Everyone might not agree, but I believe that many people, and in fact the majority of people, would. I dont know how anyone can accuse me of sexism. I am an ardent feminist and supporter of women's rights. I have never said that men cannot be the victim or rape or sexual assault. I understand that homosexual sexual assaults can take place, and I certainly understand that many men may feel a stigma in reporting these crimes - which society must address, and make clear that being a victim is not a thing to be ashamed of. I am only stating that there are hardly any real cases of a female sexually assaulting an adult male - not that men cannot be victims of sexual assault at all. __ I think people throw around moral judgments in a very black and white way. Is it really what we want for these young girls to have their lives ruined because of these juvenile and childish actions? If you want to take a legalistic view - yes, some of the actions could be seen as assault. But I call upon everyone to place themselves in this situation and think honestly. As an old man, gravely ill, with declining powers - would you REALLY feel you were a victim if an attractive 19 year old vigoursly rubbed your crotch or stuck her ass in your face? You can say "the law written down forbids this action which can be interprated in this way" - but if we speak of real common sense justice - can you put your hand on your heart and say in the situation of one of these men you would consider yourself a victim? __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas