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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
If the man, even if he was unwell or suffering from mental illness, was being hurt, humiliated or found this activity offensive - he surely would not have become arroused?
The fact that he did is clear evidence that he was not resisting and not being victimised in a conventional sense.
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As a man, you should know well enough that an erection alone doesn't equal arousal. An involuntary mechanical reaction from the mentally handicapped doesn't come close to consent for reasons too obvious to outline.
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No, I am not going quote sociological studies to say that violence and cruelty are alien to the female personality - it is common sense that this is so. The experience of life which all of us have shows us these things to be true every day.
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I'd like to meet the ladies where you live.
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It is not reported that the people in their care were upset - only that at times they cried out. They did not complain, their families did not complain, and still they do not complain. Are we to believe that of this nursing every one of them sufferes from conditions that effect the memory?
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In my view they were not tormented. In my view, whatever age the man is, being groped (which is basically what we are talking about here) by a 19 year old girl is not a "torment"
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I'm not trying to be rude here but I can't help but to wonder as to whether you've considered the logical conclusion of your argument. Do the mentally handicapped not have any rights all?
I'd like to hope that you're just trying to keep this interesting.