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Old 12-03-2008, 02:25 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Strange Famous View Post
To take these one by one

1 - "splooshing water in the guys face" - harmless and causing no injury. This sort of thing really doesnt seem much more than horseplay. Has the resident complained that he found this demeaning? To the best of my knowledge no. Some people find this kind of thing arrousing or entertaining.

2 - "touching his buttocks" - if a male touches a female in this area without permission it would be seen as a problem, but it simply is different. Men and women are not the same and anyone who doesnt see that to me is living in some kind of PC fantasy world. If I hung up a topless calendar at work I'd expect to be sacked. The girls in the admin dept have a calendar of topless hunks in speedo's in their office - if I complained about that who here would not think that I was foolish? There ARE different standards which govern the way men and women interact. I dont mean to be insensitive... but having a 19 year old girl grab your butt is not sexual assault. Pure and simple it is not.... whether youre thirty or ninety.

3 - "Insering a finger in the rectum" - this is the only thing mentioned which COULD be considered as assault. But the question again is was this done against the man's will. Even though a resident in a care home may be infirm, it is quite hard to see that a 19 year old girl could physically overpower a man to the degree that she could shove a finger up his rear if he did not want her to. How did this situation arise? Why was the man not wearing trousers at the time? If she bundled the guy over and shoved a finger up his arse as he told her to stop - yes we would consider this assault... but is this what happened? To any of us find that a realistic scenario?

4 - "antagonizing a resident" - ie having an argument with him. This is clearly not a criminal matter.

5 - "dry humping a resident" - again the key consideration is did the guy object? Can we really believe that even an elderly man could be completely overpowered by a teenage girl?

6 - "hand over the mouth..." - If the resident was generlly screaming for help - we have no report of any resident being harmed of threatened... so presumably once she was gone he would have complained. There is no report that says this either - so my assumption was that she may have been covering an involuntary shout, or a cry of excitement... something of this nature.

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If I made any arguments above in relation to alleged insults by a male perpatrator on a female victim - my arguments would be considered obscene and deeply offensive. But I can only say again that there are different standards. I hold that it is virtually impossible for a woman to sexually assault an adult male. Cased of physical assault by a female against a male can happen - but are incredibly rare - maybe 1 in 1000 cases of violence might be a female on a male - and I think that number is very generous. Maybe it would be 1 in 10,000.

These girls did abuse their power I feel, and did overstep the mark, and their actions were not appropriate.

But if we say a crime is committed, we have to say their is a victim.

There are no reports or residents or residents families complaining. There are no reports of threats or violence against the residents, and yet they did not complain still. There are no reports of any injuries suffered by the residents. The charges brought against the girls are all minor (suggesting that the prosecutor does not believe serious wrong doing has occured) - the fact is that this is only a news story because it piques the interest of people, a load of sex crazed teens in a nursing home...


Almost all of these crimes were committed against patience who suffered from dementia and/or Alzhiemer's disease. They weren't in a position to complain to anyone, nor is it likely their complaints would be understood or given merit. If you've ever been around a close family member or friend and watched them suffer the agonizing breakdown that occurs mentally when one suffers from Alzhiemer's you might not be so quick to call this treatment victimless.
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