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Old 12-03-2008, 02:09 PM   #32 (permalink)
Frosstbyte
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I'm not sure you have any idea what the term "legal consent" means, SF. People in a nursing home, especially an Alzheimer's nursing home, are probably very old, very frail and no longer remember who they are. Do you think if you brought over a contract to these people in which they signed away all their belongings to you it would be valid? Do you think if you had them sign a will you would get all their money?

No, you wouldn't, because people in that condition are legally incapable of giving consent, in the same way that a child is legally incapable of giving consent. You can ask a 7 year old all you want if they want you to stick your finger up their ass, and no matter what they say, you are still guilty of statutory rape. Exactly the same rules apply to someone who is insane or mentally incompetent. They could beg you to do it and love it being done, and it wouldn't matter.

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The Minnesota Department of Health released a report in August showing that 15 residents with Alzheimer's disease or other dementia disorders were abused at the facility between Jan. 1 and May 1.
No one complained, because these people don't remember their own children. They are deranged, senile. Do you know what those words mean? Do you have any relatives with memory problems? You could literally bring my grandmother to tears and do horrible things to her and five minutes after you stopped, she wouldn't remember any of it, because she can't. And on the off chance your response to that is "well then no one was harmed because she can't remember anyway" I think you need to seriously think about what that says about your respect for an individual's personal dignity.

If the measure of a crime is the victim complaining, then no murder can ever be charged, no one raped using date rape drugs can press charges, and I can go to the coma ward of a hospital and rape and murder and mutilate with impunity and no one can do a damn thing to me. You said that there can't be a victim if the victim isn't complaining. That is the legal standard you just set, can you really mean that?

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