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Cynthetiq · 12-02-2008, 01:22 PM

sorry to have lumped you in with dc and SMeth, that's them who've made that requirement.

One of the reasons that I so enjoy where I live is because I'm experiencing a different immigrant experience than what I grew up with in LA. I can agree that some are white collared workers, but many are just people who are looking to come to the US with a dream for a better life. The immigration history shows a good diversity of people from classes and workforces.

The Nigerians that are here, aren't white collar, they were just poor workmen who saved their money for passage to the US. There isn't much of a Nigerian community here in NYC, but it is growing.

I've actually watched the NYC area grow it's Mexican groups, there are now good carnecerias and taquieras which when I first moved here were very difficult to find authentic Mexican foods. There are Mexicans that have migrated to NYC and have grown their community. It is a very different community than the ones that live in the barrios of LA.

I could go on, but that's not the point, it is just something that I find interesting.

Structures and community? Maybe for the established, but I know that there are some that migrate with no or small community. My parents emmigrated to the US when there was no Filipino community in LA. Interestingly enough, my own frustration of this process is that they too have not established themselves as a strong community to help each other as the Chinese, Korean, Japanese, etc. and they are one of the largest communities after the Chinese. So when my parents wanted to borrow monies they borrowed from banks, not these "wealthy benefactors" you mention. There is no Filipino Action League or community group to assist other Filipinos. Now, here's where the institutional part is determined, since you're saying that blacks aren't gettting loans and quite possibly that is probably true back in the days my parents first arrived.

Now what about the people like Magic Johnson, Robert L. Johnson, Oprah Winfrey, Bill Cosby, Spike Lee, Russell Simmons, Sean Combs, etc.? We know they give back to their communities, they are trying to do so based on the philantropic efforts. So the infrastructure you are talking about is being built and does exist to some degree. The community where I live is 36,000 housing units, 18,000 are low income, Henry Street Settlement assists a large part of the community with social services.

I worked with an exNBA player that did lots of philanthropic work, but why doesn't this seem to impact the communities?

12-02-2008, 01:22 PM	#130 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	sorry to have lumped you in with dc and SMeth, that's them who've made that requirement. One of the reasons that I so enjoy where I live is because I'm experiencing a different immigrant experience than what I grew up with in LA. I can agree that some are white collared workers, but many are just people who are looking to come to the US with a dream for a better life. The immigration history shows a good diversity of people from classes and workforces. The Nigerians that are here, aren't white collar, they were just poor workmen who saved their money for passage to the US. There isn't much of a Nigerian community here in NYC, but it is growing. I've actually watched the NYC area grow it's Mexican groups, there are now good carnecerias and taquieras which when I first moved here were very difficult to find authentic Mexican foods. There are Mexicans that have migrated to NYC and have grown their community. It is a very different community than the ones that live in the barrios of LA. I could go on, but that's not the point, it is just something that I find interesting. Structures and community? Maybe for the established, but I know that there are some that migrate with no or small community. My parents emmigrated to the US when there was no Filipino community in LA. Interestingly enough, my own frustration of this process is that they too have not established themselves as a strong community to help each other as the Chinese, Korean, Japanese, etc. and they are one of the largest communities after the Chinese. So when my parents wanted to borrow monies they borrowed from banks, not these "wealthy benefactors" you mention. There is no Filipino Action League or community group to assist other Filipinos. Now, here's where the institutional part is determined, since you're saying that blacks aren't gettting loans and quite possibly that is probably true back in the days my parents first arrived. Now what about the people like Magic Johnson, Robert L. Johnson, Oprah Winfrey, Bill Cosby, Spike Lee, Russell Simmons, Sean Combs, etc.? We know they give back to their communities, they are trying to do so based on the philantropic efforts. So the infrastructure you are talking about is being built and does exist to some degree. The community where I live is 36,000 housing units, 18,000 are low income, Henry Street Settlement assists a large part of the community with social services. I worked with an exNBA player that did lots of philanthropic work, but why doesn't this seem to impact the communities? __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!