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smooth · 12-02-2008, 12:36 PM

Bush's administration defined the doctrine.

Ace, do you know what a doctrine is?

understanding threats and the tactics one will employ to handle them make up what a "doctrine" is, Ace.
I don't understand how you come to the conclusion that President Bush needs to adapt to new threats, and decentralized, non-government threats to nation-states is a modern reality regardless of what you might think, but that he doesn't have a new set of policies specifying his administration's tactics in resolving them.

Basically, it seems like you just don't understand what a doctrine is, and because of your incessant need to disagree with everyone you don't perceive as being on the same side of an argument as you, it's making your conclusions incoherent to your premises.

Here's what you're telling me:
Bush has to respond to new tactics
Bush is responding to new tactics in the same way that every other president has responded to them

So how can they be new if other presidents have responded to them?

Then you tell me:
Bush speaks to me with clarity
The threat of terrorism is not new

So why does President Bush say that we are facing new threats and we have to respond differently?
Why would we need new tactics if the threat is the same?

To that you seem to say:
The threat of terrorism is not new
But we clearly have to adapt to new and changing tactics

So what is 'terrorism' to you?
Terrorism is defined by the state department as behavior
Tactics are behavior
So if the threat is the behavior, and the tactics are new, does that not logically dictate to you that the threat is now new?

I suppose your answer seems to be:
Regardless of what others may mean or say they mean
My understanding of things is right as I understand them
Therefore, I am unconcerned with what others may mean or say they mean...even if it's President Bush and his administration.

12-02-2008, 12:36 PM	#30 (permalink)
smooth Junkie Location: Right here	Bush's administration defined the doctrine. Ace, do you know what a doctrine is? understanding threats and the tactics one will employ to handle them make up what a "doctrine" is, Ace. I don't understand how you come to the conclusion that President Bush needs to adapt to new threats, and decentralized, non-government threats to nation-states is a modern reality regardless of what you might think, but that he doesn't have a new set of policies specifying his administration's tactics in resolving them. Basically, it seems like you just don't understand what a doctrine is, and because of your incessant need to disagree with everyone you don't perceive as being on the same side of an argument as you, it's making your conclusions incoherent to your premises. Here's what you're telling me: Bush has to respond to new tactics Bush is responding to new tactics in the same way that every other president has responded to them So how can they be new if other presidents have responded to them? Then you tell me: Bush speaks to me with clarity The threat of terrorism is not new So why does President Bush say that we are facing new threats and we have to respond differently? Why would we need new tactics if the threat is the same? To that you seem to say: The threat of terrorism is not new But we clearly have to adapt to new and changing tactics So what is 'terrorism' to you? Terrorism is defined by the state department as behavior Tactics are behavior So if the threat is the behavior, and the tactics are new, does that not logically dictate to you that the threat is now new? I suppose your answer seems to be: Regardless of what others may mean or say they mean My understanding of things is right as I understand them Therefore, I am unconcerned with what others may mean or say they mean...even if it's President Bush and his administration. __________________ "The theory of a free press is that truth will emerge from free discussion, not that it will be presented perfectly and instantly in any one account." -- Walter Lippmann "You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists." -- Abbie Hoffman