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Old 12-02-2008, 12:20 PM   #29 (permalink)
aceventura3
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You've stated elsewhere that you believe the Bush Doctrine is a concept concocted by the liberal media so I find it difficult to take your views on Bush's foreign policy with much more than "whatever."
Who defined the "Bush Doctorine" in your opinion?

What is the "Bush Doctorine"?

How is the "Bush doctorine different from the foregn policy approach taken by Presidents over the past 60 years, or since WWII?

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The White House does release documents, and they often run counter to the ideas you and others have about its particular stances on events and behaviors; whether that's due to lack of obtaining the information yourselves I don't know, but it's out there.

V. Prevent Our Enemies from Threatening Us, Our Allies, and Our Friends with Weapons of Mass Destruction

Even President Bush argues that the rise of terrorism and rogue states in the 21st century is different from past threats to our national security and must be handled differently than we have addressed threats in the past. You seem to be the only one holding to the notion that he didn't reformulate international policy to that end...it's not as though he's apologetic for that.
There is a difference between the "threat" and "tactics" used by our enemy. We clearly have to adapt to new and changing tactics, but the threat of terrorism is not new. If I am the only one who sees it the way I do, so be it. I am not concerned with popularity, I would rather be right.

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You seem to want to take one piece and not the other...Saddam was a threat and had to be handled differently from other nation-states, but we don't really have a new foreign affairs policy. There are some really smart people who believe the way he formulated our foreign policy is the correct way to do it, I just disagree and think a different approach is more stable in the long-term. I'm not sure why you think that's anything to be ashamed of and therefore deny...or maybe you just don't understand what we mean when we talk about it because it's simply not historically accurate that past presidents have acted the same way.

But even if they had, even President Bush believes that the ways we've handled threats in the past would not be sufficient to safeguard the nation in the 21st century.

Anyway, there's your answer. The discrepancies that you think you are pointing out are more to due with your misunderstanding of the issues you're talking about.
My views are not as simple as you suggest above. I am not going to rehash all the Iraq war points. Going forward I think fighting a traditional war in Afghanistan is a mistake. Bush making Iraq the central front was the best strategy. Obama's desire to increase traditional troop presence in Afghanistan is going to be a waste of resources.
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