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Old 11-29-2008, 10:44 PM   #41 (permalink)
Hyacinthe
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We have a similar problems here that over the last 10 years or so has just gotten worse and worse it seems. Despite the affirmative actiosn taken by the government in regards to trying to "make up for past wrongs" it doesn't seem to be working.

We still have large groups of Aboriginal Australians roaming the streets at night (I am referring to 13 - 14 year old girls as opposed to adults) during the week and yet I am aware that a portion of the taxes I pay goes to monetary incentives for their parents to send those same kids to school. Yet despite those rewards I know most of those kids don't, that they will drop out after year 10 (our last compulsory year of schooling) if they haven't already stopped going.

Do the affirmative actions of governments around the world need to be looked at in regards to how we treat minority groups - yes they do. In some cases they are not effective and merely encourage the types of behaviours that we are hoping to avoid, but at the same time as long as you have people out there like the KKK still active - as long as people like Nelson Mandela (I know the man won a peace prize but look at a few of his less savoury actions in Africa and you'll see what I mean) are held up as being wonderful despite their actions towards those they should have the most sympathy for how can anyone claim that affirmative action should be stopped?

There are those out there in minority groups who do take advantage of the systems put in place to aid them but there are those out there that are caucasian or asian who do exactly the same thing (look at the dependenacy payments single mothers get for example or unemployment benefits). So that can't be put down to their sex, race or religion because unfortunately people from all walks of life seem to enjoy screwing others over.

Do I have any ideas on how to fix these problems - honestly no I don't. I don't have the background information, the statistics or the true understanding of what life is like for those people to be able to make an informed decision and I think very few out there really do.


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A large percentage of white children do not have fathers that are part of their family. Many white children are raised by their mothers or grandmothers and probably don't know who their real father is. If they do know who their real father is, he's probably in jail or has been in jail for committing any number of crimes.

Why would you study hard in school and look for a way out when you can go sling some dope on the corner and make a lot of money in a short amount of time? These kids grow up to perpetuate the same environment for the next generation.

This environment alone is not conducive to getting good grades in school and getting accepted to a good college or good job. The fault lies within the white community itself, not the system. Too many white people take the "easy" way out by selling drugs or living off of welfare and end up in trouble with the law. Plenty of opportunities are out there for anyone who wants to take them.

We should not accept lower standards just because some people don't want to put in the work to make the grade.
I know some people those paragraphs would describe perfectly with just the substitution of one word for another (obviously the bright green one) does that mean that I should tell my government to remove all benefits received by young white men and women?

Those types of views Timalkin are exactly why affirmative action is still necessary, as long as you are stereotyping the African American community Barrack Obamas election means nothing.
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