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Originally Posted by timalkin
While I appreciate the comments about being ill informed and illogical, that doesn't really do anything to advance any kind of logical argument about the origins of consent.
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Origins of consent? Umm, either a person gives consent or they don't.
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You do realize that consent can be non-verbal right? There are people in the world who would argue that an animal CAN give consent by not running away or fighting somebody who is trying to fuck them. I think this argument is absurd, but all it would take is a few of the wrong judges to make up a court (9th Circuit?) and before you know it, people are marching through the streets demanding the legal right to marry Fido.
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The argument is absurd and anyone claiming an animal can give consent is being absurd. People usually resort to absurd arguments like this when logic and reason fail them. Much like your entire position on this subject.
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Look at how homosexuality was looked at a few decades ago. It was looked at as immoral, nasty, and a deviant act, much like pedophilia and bestiality are looked at today. Times change and attitudes change, and not always for the better.
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True and a few decades ago people made the same claims regarding interracial marriage.
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Can a minor child give consent? Legally right now, no. But there are some groups of people in the world that claim that a child can give consent by making a verbal statement. While the current state of the law goes against this view, the law can change.
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Laws do in fact change. Hopefully reason and logic will prevail and people wanting to marry other adults they love will win out over pedophiles wanting to have sex with children.