Originally Posted by Willravel

We're still doing it today, Cyno. The US, today, is not holding up to our responsibilities. We are not honoring our treaties with the remaining Native populations. We are ignoring them.

Originally Posted by roachboy

you know, this conservative "i'm not responsible for the past, even though i benefit from it" line is really tedious. everything about your line of defense, cyno, is tedious--nothing more, nothing less. the only interesting thing about it is the extent to which benefiting from the past becomes part of the landscape, something for which you need accept no responsibility at all. whatever: it's boring.

my actual position on this question was in my first post to the thread. the holiday is double. it is necessarily double. if you had read the thread, or if you were smarter in how you played the game of debate, you would have gone to that point and pushed at it.

but you didn't--instead you preferred to play the victim role. you don't know shit about the past, it comes up, you're the victim. you, and not the people being referenced---you are the ultimate victim of all this.

poor you, having to maybe think about the historical reference point around which this holiday is built. poor you.
cry me a river indeed.

i'll catch you in another thread. done here.