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Cynthetiq · 11-22-2008, 09:58 AM

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Please note that in the above post I did agree with the institutional racism aspect for the purpose of this discussion, but I also stated that I do not agree that once it has been removed and settled will not remove it.

My point on hate crimes I've elaborated on a different thread, but it is mostly easily understood from this write up:

New York's Hate Crimes Act of 2000: problematic and redundant legislation aimed at subjective motivation | Albany Law Review | Find Articles at BNET

You have your thoughts on how to discuss and "fix" this situation of racism. I have mine.

My questions re: the confusion, filth put that to rest simply and I agreed that it is nationalism. Which is why DC suggested I "conveniently" change my position. No it wasn't convenient, it was corrected by another member, and my point of trying to understand this discussion of racism has put me on the outside of the racism discusssion since as a non-european or african american race, I'm excluded from having racism (your institutional definitions) affect me, yet somehow I know and feel like a person who has been sidelined and marginalized because I don't fit into those races but am also equally affected by the policies and situations created.

Your solution, having to discuss and theorize about the past as a prerequisite understanding to order to postulate a solution, interests me only from a historical perspective and not a solution perspective.

Sometimes, not having that baggage can be the path to finding the solution. It is looking at the problem from outside the box, and not within the confines and restraints of the situation and system, but to actually break the system and rebuild it in a new paragidm.

11-22-2008, 09:58 AM	#124 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	Cynthetiq post Please note that in the above post I did agree with the institutional racism aspect for the purpose of this discussion, but I also stated that I do not agree that once it has been removed and settled will not remove it. My point on hate crimes I've elaborated on a different thread, but it is mostly easily understood from this write up: New York's Hate Crimes Act of 2000: problematic and redundant legislation aimed at subjective motivation \| Albany Law Review \| Find Articles at BNET You have your thoughts on how to discuss and "fix" this situation of racism. I have mine. My questions re: the confusion, filth put that to rest simply and I agreed that it is nationalism. Which is why DC suggested I "conveniently" change my position. No it wasn't convenient, it was corrected by another member, and my point of trying to understand this discussion of racism has put me on the outside of the racism discusssion since as a non-european or african american race, I'm excluded from having racism (your institutional definitions) affect me, yet somehow I know and feel like a person who has been sidelined and marginalized because I don't fit into those races but am also equally affected by the policies and situations created. Your solution, having to discuss and theorize about the past as a prerequisite understanding to order to postulate a solution, interests me only from a historical perspective and not a solution perspective. Sometimes, not having that baggage can be the path to finding the solution. It is looking at the problem from outside the box, and not within the confines and restraints of the situation and system, but to actually break the system and rebuild it in a new paragidm. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!