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Old 11-16-2008, 01:53 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by matthew330 View Post
this thread more than any other, convinces me your average liberal = young white people trying to convince themselves that they have risen above, in their young wisdom, a KKK mentality that the rest of the world in. Congratulations young fellows, pat yourselves on the back.

and Daniel just learned about "the Other" from his college professor (roachboy?) and loves the concept. Fuckin hilarious.

The Secret Service has had plenty of practice for Obama in the last 8 years considering the madness of modern day liberalism. I would guess, and hope, that he'll have 4 good years.
Good morning mathew330. Vituperative as ever, I see.

I think you'll find I left college quite a long time before roachboy started, and I've never taken a sociology or PPE course in my life, so unless roachboy was teaching Chemical Physics at an unreasonably young age, it's unlikely he's ever been one of my professors.

What I have done is read widely, and I think you'll find that fear of the other is enshrined throughout political theory and philosophical writings. In the Western tradition it is present in Plato's writings on Socrates, it's in Nietzsche, and to Godwin my own post, it's got it's own special section in Mien Kampf, so I can't really say it's a new idea.

The Liberal tradition in the UK goes back a long time, and given that it pre-dates the Klan by a century or more, it's hard to see how it's a reaction to that. As for being young whites, I think you'll find that it was old men who abolished Slavery, old men who gave Women the vote, old men and women who created welfare programmes and healthcare systems, and so on.

At my age, it's nice to be called "young fellow", so thanks for that.

I notice that you seem to be saying that liberalism is a sham - that liberals are trying to "convince themselves" of something. If people vote for tolerance and support for those that need it, at the expense of the super-rich who have increased their share of the wealth in the world many times over for the past few decades (and if you want to rail at that, please take a look at the available data showing how many times more the average company director earns compared to their workers now, vs. pretty much any time in the past), if people vote for a less aggressive and hegemonising USA, if people vote for an improvement in accountability, then I'm all for people trying to convince themselves of something.
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