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Kingruv · 11-15-2008, 07:06 PM

Crompsin,

I was referring to this "Turns out I'm unhappy with this thread's inaccuracies and undereducated opinions.

I will come back tomorrow and unleash my gun-knowledge bowels upon you all.

Said unleashin' shall be aided by the delicious refried beans I consumed earlier."

MSD,

Only for one reason do I bring this up about firing a live round without benefit of hearing protection. It leaves the singular impression that isn't likely to be forgotten. I don't say it as a macho thing, it isn't. As a matter of sound level there are other noises which we may be exposed to that are more significant that we arent likely to expose ourselves to with hearing protection. That being said, You are correct in that there is a measure of hearing loss from excessive decibels. Of course this also accumulative as well. So with acknowledgment and apology I should have been more thorough about that.
So I will add this to it. I don't know of any indoor range that will allow shooters to come in without hearing protection in hand or go into the lanes without having them in place.
There is an added danger outdoors shooters are not likely aware of about shooting in a house or enclosed area. Indoor ranges have barriers to ricochet as would be expected and most of this also absorbs and slows blast/shock waves from the muzzles.
NOT so in your hallway or living room. Blast overpressure from a gun fired inside a house can be horrendous and not only cause some hearing loss but may easily and immediately rupture your eardrums. Blast overpressure normally should not be an issue on an open outdoor range where nothing directs the super increased air pressure back towards the shooter.
Most are not thinking clearly if awakened at 3AM and in a quiet house to go from almost silence to at least 150 decibels to 170, is a true shock to the system. Having to fire inside when you know and have had the experience and are completely awake; it certainly helps compared to not knowing. To put it like a friend said one time about firing derringer chambered in .45-70. When I asked how bad it was he said " you know how it is getting hit in the nuts by a hit baseball?" I said yes "well, just imagine getting hit by the bat instead" There is at least that much difference in firing outside and firing inside. It can be almost debilitating depending on the enclosure and gun/cartridge.
Proactively I do recommend using the hunters game ear hearing protection, but it has to be tried and tested a lot before use inside.
Normally with heavy blast/noise a muff should be worn over plugs to reduce shock which travels not just through the ear canal but also the soft tissue around the ear.

If you want to chalk up some stupidity (unadvisable doings..........) Many years ago I had bought a 10 ga. breakaction from a friend for waterfowl hunting. I had a box of 3 1/2 inch No. 4 copper clad shot full magnum shells. I went to my 25 yard clay revetement to check the pattern. The first time I fired it from the shoulder I thought " I must have been holding that wrong" I knew I hadn't but I knew that had to be it. So I reloaded it and made a mental check off of all the requisite thigs like stance, cheek/shoulder position.
So I pull the trigger again. Again, I get the royal mule snot kicked out of me.
I related this later in my own mind to a gun at the NRA museum owned by newspaperman and explorer/big game hunter, Henry Morten Stanley. I think it was a 4 bore which is nearly an inch diameter. If I recall correctly he normally used a 12 bore which is about the same size as a current 12 ga. What is noticeable about the gun is the red rubber recoil pad is mushroomed from not only repeated firing but enormous shoulder destroying recoil. I don't know how many rounds were fired from this gun but I would have to guess more than a few. So I have done things I shouldn't advise others to do even if there was a purpose to it.

11-15-2008, 07:06 PM	#72 (permalink)
Kingruv Upright Location: NoVa	Crompsin, I was referring to this "Turns out I'm unhappy with this thread's inaccuracies and undereducated opinions. I will come back tomorrow and unleash my gun-knowledge bowels upon you all. Said unleashin' shall be aided by the delicious refried beans I consumed earlier." MSD, Only for one reason do I bring this up about firing a live round without benefit of hearing protection. It leaves the singular impression that isn't likely to be forgotten. I don't say it as a macho thing, it isn't. As a matter of sound level there are other noises which we may be exposed to that are more significant that we arent likely to expose ourselves to with hearing protection. That being said, You are correct in that there is a measure of hearing loss from excessive decibels. Of course this also accumulative as well. So with acknowledgment and apology I should have been more thorough about that. So I will add this to it. I don't know of any indoor range that will allow shooters to come in without hearing protection in hand or go into the lanes without having them in place. There is an added danger outdoors shooters are not likely aware of about shooting in a house or enclosed area. Indoor ranges have barriers to ricochet as would be expected and most of this also absorbs and slows blast/shock waves from the muzzles. NOT so in your hallway or living room. Blast overpressure from a gun fired inside a house can be horrendous and not only cause some hearing loss but may easily and immediately rupture your eardrums. Blast overpressure normally should not be an issue on an open outdoor range where nothing directs the super increased air pressure back towards the shooter. Most are not thinking clearly if awakened at 3AM and in a quiet house to go from almost silence to at least 150 decibels to 170, is a true shock to the system. Having to fire inside when you know and have had the experience and are completely awake; it certainly helps compared to not knowing. To put it like a friend said one time about firing derringer chambered in .45-70. When I asked how bad it was he said " you know how it is getting hit in the nuts by a hit baseball?" I said yes "well, just imagine getting hit by the bat instead" There is at least that much difference in firing outside and firing inside. It can be almost debilitating depending on the enclosure and gun/cartridge. Proactively I do recommend using the hunters game ear hearing protection, but it has to be tried and tested a lot before use inside. Normally with heavy blast/noise a muff should be worn over plugs to reduce shock which travels not just through the ear canal but also the soft tissue around the ear. If you want to chalk up some stupidity (unadvisable doings..........) Many years ago I had bought a 10 ga. breakaction from a friend for waterfowl hunting. I had a box of 3 1/2 inch No. 4 copper clad shot full magnum shells. I went to my 25 yard clay revetement to check the pattern. The first time I fired it from the shoulder I thought " I must have been holding that wrong" I knew I hadn't but I knew that had to be it. So I reloaded it and made a mental check off of all the requisite thigs like stance, cheek/shoulder position. So I pull the trigger again. Again, I get the royal mule snot kicked out of me. I related this later in my own mind to a gun at the NRA museum owned by newspaperman and explorer/big game hunter, Henry Morten Stanley. I think it was a 4 bore which is nearly an inch diameter. If I recall correctly he normally used a 12 bore which is about the same size as a current 12 ga. What is noticeable about the gun is the red rubber recoil pad is mushroomed from not only repeated firing but enormous shoulder destroying recoil. I don't know how many rounds were fired from this gun but I would have to guess more than a few. So I have done things I shouldn't advise others to do even if there was a purpose to it.