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Old 11-13-2008, 11:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Greg700 View Post
Patent Pending Electrode Technology? Does that sound like something a real scientist would say? "electrode technology" has remained relatively unchanged since the 1700's. It consists of a positive electrode and a negative electrode. When you apply a current, the water will seperate into hydrogen at one and oxygen at the other. When they recombine you get the same amount (and no more) energy back, except for what was wasted in the process.

I'm sorry, Greg, but I have to take issue with you on this. Let me first state that I think this device is almost certainly bollocks, for the very good reasons you state at the beginning of your post, but to say electrode technology is unchanged in over 300 years is clearly demonstrating a lack of understanding of materials technology.

Electrode technology is more than just "some of the electrickery goes into the wires and frightens the atomies apart" or whatever.

Electrode efficiency is related to the total surface area available, the porosity of the electrodes, the conductivity of the wires, the robustness of the surface and many other factors.

Have you noticed that every year retail batteries get longer lives, and rechargeables carry more current? Ever wondered why "having a flat battery" hardly ever happens to a car driver these days?

Improvements in electrode technology.

It also occurs to me that as a petrol engine is inefficient, it may be that this thing actually works - if you divert 10% of the engine output into a hydrolyitic splitter, and that is 80% efficient, if the device makes your engine >10% more efficient, it is a net winner.

It ought to be possible to improve the engine output, and adding O2 to the mix directly would increase the burn heat and probably the volume of unburned fuel would decrease.

As mentioned elsewhere, the problem of impurities has not been addressed - what about hard water, iron salts, calcium salts, halides, etc?

Also, adding combustible gasses to the intake will change the burn heat, and that will probably take it outside the design tolerances of the manufacturer - so there could be a problem there.

I'd not dismiss it out of hand without further testing, but I'm not convinced based on what I've seen so far.
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