Originally Posted by abaya

Yeah, but no one likes to be accused of being The Problem all on their own, y'know?

Which is why this thread is kind of two-pronged... we can't just sit back and say, "Change, or we won't post!" because I'm not convinced that the majority of the female members here would venture in there, even if it were the safest-feeling forum on TFP (which it isn't). I still maintain the opinion that many women, often the quietest ones, actually believe that they don't have much to add in those areas... and this is something that I really want to understand, sociologically, even if we can't change it on TFP.

I also know that a lot of men are reading this thread and thinking about the issue... the abundant PM's I've received are evidence of this--a LOT of men don't like the tone in Politics, and many of them stay out of it for exactly the same reasons that many women do--so I'm still not convinced it's ALL a gender thing, that's too simplistic. It's difficult for them to change it all on their own, too, since that forum in particular has a culture all its own. Do we have any particular, specific pointers for the dominant voices in that forum, tips for changing what is going on in there?

The other question is, maybe some of them really just don't care about hearing what more women have to say. Not a nice thought, but quite possibly true. We already heard from one male member (in another thread) who stated that he just wanted to read more about wet pussies in the LL, not our politics.