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Old 11-11-2008, 12:43 AM   #115 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Willravel View Post
Jesus, smooth. I was mostly speaking in generalities which can easily be tracked, such as the way people vote in presidential elections. When things get that specific, there are no "liberal" or "conservative" areas. There are tons of liberals in the most conservative-ish areas. Even areas like Provo Utah, which is considered to be the most conservative city in North America, have plenty of liberals.

The reason I speak in generalities in this case is simply to prevent the discussion from falling apart. Is it totally honest? No, but changing just a few minds in those traditionally red areas can't be a bad thing. That was the ultimate point I was shooting for. Going into Riverside to try and demonstrate that gay marriage isn't a threat could mean the difference between the next Prop 8 passing or failing.
I'm not sure if asking for specific liberal policies or examining whether we are liberal in general like you claim risks causing the conversation to fall apart.

Well anyway, the reason I think it's important is because many groups agitate for more regressive policies across the country on the back of California's mythical "liberal" policies. We don't have them. But whatever, the other problem is what happened in your statement above.

Relying on the stereotype of a liberal California with a conservative or backwards inland population jeopardizes effective political campaigning. Why would it be a better idea to campaign in Riverside (266,000 votes for prop 8) where people are less densely populated than San Diego or Orange County (both over 550,000 votes for prop 8)? Orange County went for McCain, while Riverside went for Obama, btw. Orange County is also home to Saddleback Church, one of the largest churches in the country and a vocal supporter of prop 8.
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