Hey, I'm frankly pretty damn excited to be pissing some people off. It's getting them to post some interesting stuff.
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And you ladies say that you don't like to argue? (Said with tongue-in-cheek, but really... why not post the same kind of thing in the non-LL forums?)
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Originally Posted by Supple Cow
So, I am asking you, what is your goal? Are you trying to get the women to fit Politics or are you trying to get Politics to fit the women? I honestly don't think you can do both. But that doesn't mean that when, on occasion, it happens to be less trouble than it is worth, I won't still go in there and have my hand at some reasonable discourse. That is, until it gets to the point where I am just banging my head against a wall again.
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As for my goal... good question. I guess I was hoping to work on both... probably not fully accomplish both, but at least try to merge things a little better. I want women to feel empowered, to know that their voices and opinions count (especially the quieter women--none of whom have posted in this thread yet, btw)--to try and speak up, get pissed off, stick their necks out into politics and see if they can shift the tone in there--but at the same time, I'm challenging the current frequenters of Politics to pay attention to this, and to make some damn room for the less confrontational people in there. Kind of a meet-in-the-middle thing.
But also, I think another motivation for posting this thread was partly selfish... to give me a reason to not walk away from this place for a while. I don't know if it's my own perception or what, but I feel somehow lonely as a female member of TFP these days. I'm more tired, grouchy, edgy in here... not least because of my real-life stress (which is building to a peak, in the next 6 weeks), but because I just miss having more balanced views around here, a community that I have valued for many years.
As I mentioned above, politics has become a central part of my life during this election season, and I want to share that enthusiasm and engagement with others. And TFP politics is not really cutting it, at least not until the discussion in there changes somehow. So I want to see what can be done to change things up, if anything, or if we should just abandon hope and let it continue to stew in its own juices, or what.