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Old 11-05-2008, 12:14 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Actually, the way I'm thinking of dealing with this is thinking of a bill that removes marriage from state control and replaces it with state sanctioned unions. I wonder how many church/state separatists would actually go for that...almost seems like it'd be something Mormons would wholeheartedly support: that churches could have absolute control over validity of marriages within their own systems and that states could regulate civil unions however they felt they needed to. that's what the mormon church does currently, anyway.
Yes but that makes TOO much sense... obviously it would never fly.

I am sick over the the antigay ballot initiatives that passed last night, but it's hitting especially hard with me for Prop 8 in California. The state's liberal reputation aside, gay marriage was legal there for four months and, as others have already said, the world didn't come to a screeching halt. In that time thousands of same-sex couples married and happily lived their lives, in no way intervening in or harming the lives of those who stripped them of their rights last night.

If there were a (legal and non-violent) way to make those people really, really regret the decision they made when they voted to support Proposition 8, to essentially convince them they made a big mistake and really were much better off with those gay couples being happily married, I would jump on it immediately.
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