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Old 10-27-2008, 04:50 PM   #135 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Derwood View Post
any form of taxation is wealth redistribution. nothing Obama or any other politician is proposing is new, radical, or revolutionary.
this can be correct only in the most technical sense... when taxes are paid to maintain a military, everyone's defense is enhanced. when taxes are used to build highways, all can use them for transport. when taxes light neighborhoods lampposts, no one walks in the dark.

but, when you use taxes for social entitlements as obama advocates you're dealing with something fundamentally different. when obama taxes my paycheck to provide healthcare to those who haven't earned it, i'm LESS able to pay for my own family's care. when obama taxes my paycheck to subsidize college education for those who haven't earned it, i'm LESS able to pay back my own loans.

the difference between the two taxation schemes differs philosophically. the first is designed around mutual benefit. the second is designed around taking from one group by threat of imprisonment solely for the benefit of a second group who manages to elect someone willing to enforce their desires. the first is constitutional. the second is not.

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any wealth that is being spread around is moving from the very rich to the very poor. the GOP has done an amazing job convincing the middle class that the Dems want to take their money and give it to the poor. it's simply not true
i don't think it's that they (the GOP) have convinced the middle class that THEIR money will be appropriated for the poor... i think it's that many middle class persons (rightfully!) object to ANYONE'S money (including that of wealthy persons) being taken from one person and given to another via government decree.
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