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Old 10-21-2008, 09:59 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by guyy View Post
It's also interesting that you're using the "oh, but it will annoy the Canadians & the Peru & Colombia" argument. I thought RealAmericans did not care how people in other countries feel. "Country First", right?
I don't care about their "feelings", I care about their actions. If I were in Canadian leadership, I would lessen my dependence on the US. That is not my point, my point is that Obama seems not to understand the broader issue or the consequences of his words and actions. It is not the US doing what it wants while other nations do nothing. Understanding and anticipating the moves of others is critically important to leadership. Like McCain said to Obama a few times, "you don't tip your hand".

It is also interesting how liberals fail to understand that in the war against terror that we fight against an enemy that employs a strategy and is willing to change that strategy to try to win while liberal will think you have to fight the war the way we originally planned, i.e. fight in Afghanistan while the enemy is fighting in Iraq.
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Originally Posted by dc_dux View Post
It appears he doesnt care much about state-sanctioned violence against trade unions and populists groups in Colombia. Bush and McCain certainly dont.

Uribe is a thug, but that doesnt matter either.
Seems to be a bit of an extreme conclusion, given what has been written and said on this topic by me and others. Do you really think your conclusion is a reasonable one?
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Originally Posted by filtherton View Post
I think Ace is working on some sort of spitball method of Obama criticism. You just have to keep tossing shit against the wall, and hope something sticks. The nice thing for him is that he has convinced himself that the fact that nothing is really sticking is proof that his criticisms are valid.

It's an interesting form of self validation, notable for its circular nature.
Sorry, I did not add a P.S. here about how I am not concerned about what you folks think about me. I am more interested in what you think about the issue.
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