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Old 10-18-2008, 06:08 PM   #90 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
then there's the whole thing of the "social parasite" that you see running through alot of these "libertarian" style posts (not all of them, i should say):
the "lazy" as over against the "hard-working"; the "degenerate" as over against the "moral"; the "members of society" and those who "are not" or "should not be members of society"; the "regular joe who struggles in his righteousness to get over" as over against these Others "who only know how to get a government check."

flip a libertarian over and too often you find yet another petit-bourgeois fascist. whether any given person who thinks in these terms would act on the above is another matter---you know, to purge Society of the Undesirables which Drag It Down, man---but structurally, the arguments are very familiar.
everything that's maybe uneven about the surfaces from which different class positions start is pegged on the Undesirable. without them, "society" would be singular, self-contained and limited--the reason that there is the evil state is because there are these parasites.

fascism straight up, in its oppositional form. alot of populist fascist movements start out being kinda anarchist regarding the state--but once in power, there's a reconsideration. it's hard to have a National Military Destiny without the state. and besides, there's a curious symmetry between a limited state and authoritarian rule. a single authoritarian ruler is pretty limited as a model of state--one guy.
and such systems are not necessarily experienced as authoritarian so long as you support them, so long as the parasites being eliminated are not you.

Am I selling out to engage in what already is. I think the trend is continually boucing further left each time. Although the healthcare issue doesnt seem to be as near as extreme as I thought it was going to be.

If the world was ready I would not be sad in this type of culture The Venus Project - The Redesign of a culture

it may have to happen at some point if humanity is to survive. Highly unlikely.

"flip a libertarian over and too often you find yet another petit-bourgeois fascist" wow
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