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Old 10-15-2008, 05:07 PM   #60 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru
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@rune:

Government doesn't tell people how to spend; government is a democratically elected body that is empowered by the public to manage public spending to ensure it can thrive.

Your view on the "redistribution of money" is personal. To say it hasn't helped anyone is a big stretch. You can believe this if you want, but you haven't been very convincing that it's even remotely true.

Your anecdotes are interesting, and I'd like to hear more details, but they haven't been very useful as supporting your views. Perhaps a different approach would help.

"People are lazy and stubborn" is an incredibly general statement. I'm sorry you think that. Personally, I think some people are lazy and stubborn, while others are industrious and energetic, and a list of many interesting characteristics.

"Being in charge of your own decisions, your own debts, transactions and donations is the way a society should orient itself." This without government is anarcho-capitalism and possibly plutocracy. I don't think this is sustainable for a thriving and just society.

"My money is my money. You can have some of it if i'm nice." Are you opposed to the idea of society?

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Originally Posted by Sun_Tzu
Baraka I have spent time in France, but my mindset was different in I really wasnt concerned with politics and if it felt good I did it. I also havent really had an opportunity to speak to anyone in depth of what it is like to live in socialistic system (even though the US keeps creeping along).

Do you have people at freeway intersections standing there with signs "Why lie I need money for beer" and "My blood alcohol level is dangeously low- Please help"?

How do elements such as innovation and free enterprise factor in that environment?

Are you pleased with the health care system?

The list could go on, and I probably should have asked you these questions a long time ago, because I am generally interested to hear. Have you spent time in the US or enough to make some general contrasts?

I'd appreciate hearing you views based on your personal experiences. Thanks
I have not spend a great length of time in the U.S. I am generally pleased with the health-care system here, though I haven't used it as much as others, but I generally support it because a healthy public is a thriving public. From what I understand, however, it could use more funding and/or better efficiency. It's not perfect, but it works.

We do have poor and homeless. I can't think of many places that don't. Many of us want to do more to fight poverty, especially amongst children. As far as innovation and free enterprise is concerned, Canada has been home to much of it. I could provide examples, but I don't have much time at the moment. Canada has been a fair contributor in this respect, I can assure you.

Don't get me wrong, Canada isn't "socialist." We merely have some socialist policies and traditions, in addition to socialist members of parliament working to implement more. Socialism works here amongst liberalism and conservatism.

Feel free to ask more specific questions if you wish.
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