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Originally Posted by docbungle
Well, that should go without saying, shouldn't it? I mean, everyone running for office over-promises. Who hasn't, in your lifetime?
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George Bush. He ran on an agenda to cut taxes and to be aggressive on national defense, he ran for re-election on "staying the course" in Iraq.
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I think that point is moot.
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I think you are afraid to answer the question. Just like Pelosi over-promised when she became speaker, Democrats are on the verge of complete power in Washington, should I say it...based on lies?
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McCain has over-promised as well. Obviously.
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Assuming nothing material changes, McCain is not going to be the next President. And, he certainly won't have control of Congress if by chance he does win.
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The difference is by how much. Obama is striving to be the best he can be. McCain is striving to finish in first place. I see a major difference in their approaches. McCain has thrown so many things out there, it's all just barely holding together with duct tape and barbed wire.
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Was Obama being the "best" he could be when he won his state legislative post in Illinois, or did he play to win? He played to win. Obama is political, more so than many in elected political office.
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Your simplistic implications that Obama has promised to "end war" and stop people from "getting rich" and stop companies from "making money" are ridiculous. What this shows, more than anything, is a buying into of the McCain camps utter nonsense: keep repeating falsehoods until people start believing them. And if you don't believe them, then why are you repeating them here, in the form of an actual argument supporting your view?
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Obama says things like he will make us "respected" again in the world. Or, he will engage our enemies in dialog using diplomacy, exhausting all options prior to using military force, as if that has not been done, including by Bush. O.k. I am simplistic and he is not...I get it...Obama is your guy...don't say anything critical of him...and perhaps those who criticize him should just go away...because those who criticize Obama are just (fill-in your favorite adjective)...
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Originally Posted by Rekna
Why would someone forge a voter registration to say Mickey Mouse? It isn't like they would be able to vote on that.
The claim that ACORN employees created fraudulent registrations is just as likely as Republicans purposefully filled out false registrations with ACORN employees in order to make them look bad.
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O.k., they did nothing wrong and if they did, Republican did worse. I get it.
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Originally Posted by guyy
So what do you think of this strategy, Ace? It seems to be failing quite spectacularly.
Carry on!
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I think McCain and his people are wasting their time with this issue.
McCain is not able to clearly articulate the case against Obama. As a Republican it is maddening that he is the nominee when we could have had someone much better able to present a clear case for the future.
The problem with McCAin has always been his "mavericky" style, translated to me to mean no convictions. When he said the fundamentals of the economy were strong and then backed-off of that he lost much of the remaining respect I had for him. If he had stood firm and explained to the American people why the economy is fundamentally strong, I bet he would be ahead and the market would not have over-corrected as it has.