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Originally Posted by Jinn
If you find it possible (despite the cognitive dissonance) that people are genuinely poor out of circumstance - fatherless home, poorly educated parents, poor schools, crime-ridden neighborhood, poor job markets, abusive relationships, then this conservative ideology necessarily falls apart.
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So are you saying the ones that had 100% intention to financially succeed despite their circumstances were just . . . . lucky?
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Originally Posted by Jinn
The really damning part of this op-ed is that someone thinks that a minor increase in the taxes of those making $250,000 or more is socialism, communism, or wealth distribution.
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What is it? If we were taking a test next week, but each of us knows that everyone is getting a C there really isnt a need to study is there?
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Originally Posted by Jinn
And finally; "He’s what you want your son to grow up to be. He loves God, his country, his wife, and his kids." Sorry, that is not what I want my son to grow up to be. Thanks, though, Dave Ramsey. Your characterizations of the 'talking heads' is bemusing, made particularly so by the fact that you too are a talking head.
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What?
America has bounced back and forth for a very long time. The fluctuations in the degree people will have their income taxed has varied. I hear a lot of my peers (the area I live in) bashing the free market. Not surprising they are all Obama supporters. I’m not implying all Democrats look down upon capitalistic practices, but the general mindset appears to be moving further left each day.
I don’t understand how some people arrived to their conclusions. IMO individuals with developmental disabilities, mental illness, and similar conditions understandably should receive assistance. More power to the ones that overcome their disability and propel themselves beyond aid. The part I have difficulty in understanding is providing perpetual ongoing assistance to people that are not disabled. This really always seems to come down to a central mindset (I could be wrong) the level of a persons financial success should dictate how much they pay in taxes.
In many ways everyone, regardless of how much they have in the bank or how the accumulated, are in the same boat. We are taxed in every part of our lives. Everything we buy, including the food we eat is taxed. The fuel we use to propel the vehicles we were taxed when buying them is taxed. The utilities: water, electricity, possibly natural gas- taxed. Property tax, parking tax, city tax, state tax, it goes on and on. We all accept the taxes on top of the charges for services and products. The debate resides on what percentage of income made from the services and products.
For those that feel the percentage of people that have accumulated a large amount of financial wealth should pay more- I’m trying to view this with an open mind so I ask the following questions with sincerity; not sarcasm.
1. Is there a level that you feel everyone should be at?
2. Do you see it being wrong for one to have more than another?
3. Employers will obviously have a higher amount of wealth to employ others- should companies be run by the government and the driving force of entrepreneurship be disbanded?
4. Not referencing disabled individuals- Are you of the opinion there should not be a single homeless person on the streets?
5. If people don’t want to work are you OK with society covering their survival costs?
6. The way leadership and its philosophy change, respectfully every 4-12 years; which direction do you see innovation, creativity, and any other success coming from?
7. If America was to have a Democrat President and Congressional majority for the next 50 years straight where would you see us at?
Are there any liberals that think the “us vs. them” as it was put in another thread, is BS? I’m referring to the current monetary system based on the Federal Reserve and the electronic credits and paper notes with debt and interest already attached. Is it really conspiracy that America as a whole is under a system that perpetual debt is by design? If that is the reality, isn’t the constant energy placed on this ongoing social disagreement displaced?
Are there any Democrats that disagree with Socialism and Communism? If so, why?