The_Dunedan

I don't know why I'm doing this, but here goes...


You first. I have yet to see you post anything which isn't some equally impenetrable form of leftwing gobble-do-gook.

A system of economic organization wherein the means of production is owned, primarily or in total, by the State or, in some understandings, any collective body. There; care to retract that snide little gem?

Except that when you tax someone's earnings, you're taxing all the time, effort, and thought he put into making that money. You are now taking ownership of one of the crucial means of production (capital) by force and transferring its' control to the State. Moreover, you are ex post facto taking possession of the time, effort, and thought which went into making that money: howzit feel to be a Slave Owner? Means of production under control of the State; Socialism.

If you -really- need an answer to that, come check out my neighborhood (such as it is.) 60+ able-bodied adults, 4 people with jobs. The rest sit on their arses and drink Nyquil all day while drawing checks because they can. Because the system allows them to do so. What you "liberals" frequently fail to realize is that some people are just plain lazy, stupid, and happy that way: they're perfectly happy to be subsidised with my money. Giving these people a job is like giving The Tragedy of Othello to a milk cow: she doesn't want it, wouldn't know what to do with it if she did, and is perfectly happy with the Status Quo.

So let me get this straight. I'm walking down the street at night and I run into three other guys. They pull guns and demand my money (3:1 majority rules seems like a political consensus). I pay them because I don't want to wake up missing my kidneys tomorrow. They leave with my money (transferring my wealth from my pockets into their own) and I go home without the paycheck I worked all week for. And you find this acceptable?! Please tell me I'm misreading your leftwing gobble-de-gook here: I haven't been a Communist in some years and I'm afraid I've lost my ear for the language.

So my whole street, all three burnt-out meth-labs, child-molester, Church-cheating welfare queens with the Dodge Ram 'n all, is an hallucination? Fascinating...

Because we can look out our windows and see it, it's kind of like trees that way.

All enforced at the point of a gun. Why is it, I wonder, that you lefties are so disinclined to acknowledge this aspect of your pipe-dreams? Every single one of those nice little ideas up there would be enforced upon others by violence or the threat of violence. Funny how "evil" Capitalism is predicated upon mutually beneficial voluntary exchange, while "good" Communism or Socialism is based on threatening to blow someone's face off.

Because the world is full of deeply, deeply stupid people who have no business trying to run a trotline, let alone an enterprise with more than two people. Stupid people vote for stupid things, and stupid things are something I do my level best to avoid. Unfortunately, stupid people voting for stupid things frequently succeed in getting them, as witness almost everything Congress has done in the past eight years.

Why in God's name would you think that was what you were seeing? This is Mercantilism or Corporatism or Fascism (take your pick) failing under its' own weight, not Capitalism. Capitalism disallows the Gov't interference and distortion of Markets which created this problem in the first place, especially the ridiculous notion of "Corporate Personhood" which allowed the monstrosity known as Corporate Welfare (AKA The Big Bad Bailout) to exist in the first place.

Again, NONE of this is Capitalism! Capitalism was destroyed in the US by the 1850s, mostly thanks to the Eerie, and was buried 12 feet deep by that treasonous scumbag Abraham Lincoln's War Department.