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Old 10-14-2008, 11:37 AM   #20 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru
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Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
one of the main features of a democratic socialist system is a political orientation toward full employment.
how anyone gets from that to any of these conservative cliche's about "sitting on your hands" is beyond me [...]

wealth redistribution is generally oriented by this sort of system-level or macro-policy goal. in that contexts, it's really just a transfer of wealth from one place to another--nothing moral about it---a political consensus is what matters.
the discourse of morality is another conservative non-sequitor.
I just wanted to point out how important this is to the thread so far.

Democratic socialism also seeks fair work practices, including the support for fair wages and responsible workplaces.

To think that socialism encourages laziness is as fallacious as assuming that the logical conclusion of conservatism is fascism.

To think that socialism doesn't or cannot exist within capitalism is as fallacious as assuming that conservatism is inherently capitalistic. (Both socialists and conservatives were critics of capitalism in the 19th century.)
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