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Old 10-14-2008, 09:09 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru View Post
America has a long way to go to rival many European countries in regard to same-sex marriage. Maybe the two are connected. Maybe more open and progressive societies have a better time at educating their public.

This isn't about math or English; this is more of a social studies thing. Marriage has long been used as a way of fostering public acceptance of a couple's bond and creation of a family. In this day in age in America, more needs to be done to show that lesbian and gay marriage is just as legitimate and worthy of acceptance in society. I think showing this to first-graders is a good way (one of many) to "normalize" the idea of same-sex unions.

Also, in response to some posts in this thread, I think comparing this to religion and religion in schools is a mismatched comparison. It's not the same idea. Sure this is political. What else would it be? Why should we hide children from this ongoing transition in society? This is unavoidable. There is nothing wrong with involving children in this—at least not in this way.
Asian countries are not very progressive when it comes to same-sex marriages. Some Asian countries tolerate same sex, Philippines, Thailand come to mind, and they aren't the high end of the scholars.

Japan, China, India.... not so much tolerance from what I have been able to gather over the years.

Maybe, is just maybe.

Looking at Muslim countires, which excelled at education in early history, there was no tolerance for same sex follies.

Again, when the schools are as competitive and bringing to bear children who can compete with those from the European countries in education, I'll be all for teachable moments.

If you'd like to call this "social studies" again, if we're talking academics, the US is behind is social studies as well.

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America's problem with math and english education is cultural. It's difficult to convince people that proper english is important when the president doesn't speak it.
Really? So you're pegging this to the last 8 years? When Clinton, Bush I, Reagan, Carter, Nixon, Johnson, our scores were better compared to Europeans? No the English system is far more intensive than the American System. I can say that because I know foreign kids who attended both kinds of schools and was able to compare the curriculums to my own private schooling and comapred to my girlfriend's public schooling. Chinese schools in Singapore are also very competitive. Singapore has slight tolerance for same sex couples.

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Originally Posted by highthief View Post
American English scores are not the equal of those in Italy, Romania and Germany!?! Your education system is in worse shape than I thought ...

Well considering that many people speak several languages, maybe they are equal in that respect!
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