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Originally Posted by QuasiMondo
John Kerry's campaign didn't think the flap over the the legitimacy of the Bronze Medal he received in Vietnam was an issue and they never responded to that. Look were it didn't get him.
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I don't think this issue moved any votes one way or the other. Again, similar to Obama Kerry had a pattern that was disturbing. He never took the time to simply explain his views and feelings during the Vietnam war era and how those views and feelings evolved. The voters were left with a void and people filled the void the way they wanted. Kerry did not need to specifically address the Bronze Medal if he had taken the time to explain the transition from being a disheartened Vietnam vet and being a US Senator wanting to be President of the greatest nation on earth.
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But I guess it's a case of damn'd if you do, damn'd if you don't.
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Or, do what is right and screw those who don't like it.
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Originally Posted by roachboy
i think that if this is the case, it's an instance of obama's campaign walking into the trivia trap that is this "issue"---by responding, you accept the terms of discussion that go along with it.
given that the conventional wisdom is that the conflict between the campaigns is over undecided voters who, for reasons that i do not entirely understand, are said to be "centrists" this atwater/rove style move seems to be seen as a problem by the obama camp.
that is it based on nothing beyond redbaiting, nothing beyond distortion and the use of the word "terrorist" in association with the word "obama" seems to not be seen as a consistently trivial matter by obama's campaign, presumably because of the associations that are bundled around the "undecided voters"
i am not sure that obama really needs these voters, but that sort of view might also explain why i am not working for his campaign. well that and i didn't ask.
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What is your opinion of those taking the stance that if Obama loses the nation is racist or that those who don't support Obama are racists?
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Originally Posted by Manic_Skafe
This is all fear mongering 101.
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My friend look up fear mongering and this is what you find:
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Originally Posted by flstf
As I understand it those concerned with Obama's past with Ayers, Rev. Wright, etc.. (at least those on this forum) are not so much concerned with his connection with those individuals but his answers explaining those relationships today. I imagine as a young polititian he accepted fundraiser help from Ayers (and almost anyone else who would help) and also joined the largest black church in Chicago in part to connect to the black community. Like most polititians Obama will of course try to downplay any past associations which might negatively effect his current campaign. Polititians who do not play this game well will probably not win many elections.
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This is true. I lived in the Chicago area. If you are a young ambitious politician you have to "kiss a few rings". Like it or not, that is the cost of gaining political power in Chicago.