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Old 10-08-2008, 10:47 PM   #8 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by GeneralMao View Post
The bible, the same one that endorses incest and claims the Earth is no more than 6-9,000 years old?
It endorses and disendorses a lot more than just incest. The contradictions are quite fascinating to say the least.

But my thing is the 6-9000 yrs old.

When I was in Navy A school a preacher's kid and I were drinking buddies. I once asked him about dinosaurs and the big bang and evolution.... I have used that answer many times since because it does make sense, if you so desire to believe.... here was his answer:

In the Bible it states 7 GOD days not Earth days because there was no time on Earth yet, God hadn't made it he hadn't even made Heaven.

So the Big Bang could have been the creation of Heaven and Earth, but that time could very easily have been 1 day to him. So in theory BILLIONS of years to create the universe and Earth took him 1 day. It states that there was darkness and then there was light..... that sounds like an explosion.

Then there was a division of darkness and light..... again the particles blowing out from the explosion God created.

That was day 1.... again could have been a Billion man years but a single day to God.

The second day he made land between the waters.... again in man years this could have taken millions of years, to God it could have been but 1 day.

Then came plant life which again took millions of years to flourish.

On the third day the stars appeared because other galaxies and solar systems came into being.....

The fourth day was water animals and birds.... again who knows how long that "day" was for God... or what was truly created and evolved.

The fifth day came the land creatures... again, to God this could have been only one day but in his one "day" sea creatures evolved onto land and started becoming land creatures.... dinosaurs, amphibians and reptiles... along with mammals.

And then finally, man came, but maybe we had to evolve. Just like we have gone from caves to tribes to villages and so on.

Who knows? I think it is small minded to condemn anyone's beliefs. For all we know we are a computer simulation game..... or an atom of Fluorine.... in a piece of dirt on another planet.

I think it is funny that throughout history people fight over beliefs instead of allowing them to peacefully coexist. Atheists want to prove they are right so they use Science and try to degrade people who do believe in what they cannot by their logic. But Science is pure impuricism that totally excludes metaphysics or anything that is unknown to them.

Before man knew of atoms he had to understand molecules. Before man understood nuclear power he had to develop the theories and try them.... but if we go back even 150 years such talk of lighting a city or destroying Earth with the splitting of atoms would be laughed at. Or even explaining the 25 man made atoms, the different isotopes, the muons, the sub atomic particles..... and so on.

Most religious people will believe what their religion teaches them with little argument. It is based on "faith". These faiths have been passed down from generation to generation without changing much. No matter how attacked they have remained firm and unwavering.... while Science continues to prove then disprove itself and it finally figures out an answer and builds off of it.

Science can explain a lot of things but it cannot explain everything no matter how hard it tries because it does not know everything.

Religion and faith can explain some things but mostly it relies on just that one's faith and belief in that faith.

Perhaps both sides are so blinded by what they believe and what their faith tells them that they do not see somewhere there is a middle ground. Perhaps, there is both.... what we deem "Science" because our logical minds can eventually figure out a problem and a God, but not the old man in the clouds above us. Perhaps that "God" is merely another dimension, another reality we are unable to see.

Even the most intelligent minds man has ever known believed in a "God". And even the smallest of minds the world has ever seen believed Science to have all the answers.

Yet, some argue the other way around..... and in the end it all comes down to faith and belief.
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