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Originally Posted by mixedsubstance
Jinn, I haven't exactly heard any proof or explanation of your beliefs on why you disclaim this. That's what I am getting at here. All you are doing is saying that Law of Attraction is fake and people who believe in it are arrogant
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Originally Posted by Jinn
Your stunning disregard for the basic tenets of science and your complete misunderstanding of what constitutes a 'scientific law' makes it very difficult for me to continue this discussion with you. I appreciate the (brief) discussion, but I don't think I'll make any further inroads with a person who believes this is the definition of a scientific law, or believes that this is how science functions.
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Again, your philosophical and scientific understanding makes this very difficult to discuss on an intellectual level. I feel like I might get further by instead grunting at you. Not only do I not have to prove or explain my reasons for "disclaiming" this, you have to provide verifiable, empirical and scientific evidence that it DOES exist. Just like unicorns, the spaghetti monster and boogie monsters, the onus is on the claimant to provide the evidence for a given phenomenon's existence.
If the scientific community suddenly undertook the bold role of disproving every theory posited for how the Universe works, no scientific progress would ever be made. Theories about how the Universe works far outnumber reasonable, verifiable explanations for those theories. In order to demonstrate to an acceptable level that "positive thought" or the "attraction theory" (I refuse to call it a "Law" anymore, as it is not a scientific law; far from it), you'd have to do something called RESEARCH.
Research involves observing, documenting and REPEATING experiences in which 'positive thought' or 'prayer' or whatever you want to call it has brought about measurable changes into the Universe. I don't envy the scientific environment you'd have to set up to isolate "positive thought" as the only variable, and I frankly don't think it would be possible as it is nigh impossible to 'observe' accurately.
Hell - if you were able to demonstrate such a thing, there are number of prizes for such research. The James Randi foundation alone would offer you more than $1 million for providing evidence that your theory is sound.
Until then, you're just another adamant follower of today's alchemy, today's 'chants', today's 'healing powers', today's 'homeopathic medicine,' asking someone ELSE to spend valuable time debunking your wild claims, rather than taking the time yourself to observe, repeat, and document cases which support your claim.
How would you feel if I asked you to disprove my theory that everything that happens in this world is actually the result of intervention in the affairs of humans by evil genies, or
Jinn? Wouldn't you want me to present SOME sort of verifiable, repeatable evidence FOR their existence before you wasted the time attempting to refute their existence?