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Old 10-04-2008, 08:39 AM   #62 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
i would agree with you, pan, except that if there is a theology section, there's an entire swatch of theology that addresses questions of uncertainty and/or unbelief WITHIN christianity itself.
that makes the question quite different from a recovery board being bombed with posts about getting high.

i don't particularly care about the board that km posted about in itself, but i think the move it made is bizarre precisely because it's not excluding non-believers alone--it's also defining what theology is in an unnecessary and arbitrary way. to my mind that's the problem.

they seem to me equally interested in excluding, say, catholics who are interested in the thinking of someone like william of ockham. it really makes no sense.
Ah but if we delve not too deep into the OP's link on the board it states this:

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Origins Theology Forum for the discussion of Creation Science (Young/Old) vs Theistic Evolution. Discussion of Atheistic Evolution should be taken to the Discussion and Debate forums.
Their rules state thus:

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You will not promote any faith, belief, or religion other than Christianity. For the purpose of these rules, Christianity is defined by Christian Forums' Statement of Faith.
As atheism is arguably a faith and most definitely a belief if I go and argue for atheism, I could be seen as breaking this rule.

Another rule states:

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Sharing of information about one's beliefs, for instance by quoting Bible verses or witnessing, is encouraged. Honest debate and discussion regarding the existence and nature of God is allowed and welcome. Mockery of Christians, Christians beliefs, and the Christian God are not.
If I go in with best intentions and ask how 1 came to their faith and how it has helped them, that is respectful and I would assume welcome, in accordance with their guidelines.

However, if I go in and start arguing there is no God or that I can't believe that these people would believe in such a thing, I am making a mockery of them and would definitely not be welcomed.

They have a statement of Faith for their forum in their rules:

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Statement of Faith
This is the basis of which our non-promotion rule is based upon, and is the baseline for forum-specific guidelines. An individual forum may use the Nicene Creed without asterisks, a confession of faith, or other statements, provided such is an expansion of the CF statement of faith. However, forum-specific guidelines must not conflict with the CF Statement of Faith.

CF supports the following as a statement of faith:

We worship one God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Isaiah 44:6-8; Exodus 3:15). God is three divine persons, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, who share one essence--the Trinity (John 6:27; John 1:1, 14; Romans 8:9; Hebrews 1:2-3).

Our Lord, God and Savior, Jesus Christ, the incarnate second person of the Holy Trinity, fully God and fully man (John 1:1, 14), by the Power of the Holy Spirit was born of a Virgin (Luke 1:35) and existed before all time begotten of God the Father (John 1:2; John 1:18). He was crucified for our sins, died, was buried, resurrected on the third day (1 Corinthians 15:3-4) and is seated at the right hand of the Father (Mark 16:19). Jesus is the Christ, the Messiah (John 1:49; Matthew 16:16). His coming was foretold by the prophets of the Old Testament (Acts 3:18-23). He shall come again with glory to judge the living and the dead (Acts 10:42) and His Kingdom will have no end (2 Peter 1:11).
That pretty much states, "This forum is for Christians and those believing in the Christian faith."

In the end it comes down to respect of others wishes and their desire to have their space.

I think they have set the rules out pretty well and have basically stated that it is a Christian forum created for Christians of many denominations {as seen by their denominational sub forums}.

I have a feeling within he forum there maybe discussion of different Christian Theologians that may interest them, they can debate about and it is a welcome topic. Debating the existence, power and faith one has in Christ I could see as being unwelcome.
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