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Lennonite Priest
Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA
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Originally Posted by Charlatan
Leave it to Rove to find a way to turn actual numbers that show the Republicans voted it down into a positive.
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To blame 1 party is wrong and truly just lying to the people. But what else is new?
95 DEMOCRATS voted AGAINST the passage. All they needed were 12 of those DEMS voting no to vote YES and they had it. I do not see how it was just the GOP that took the bailout down. It's a lie to even IMPLY such a thing and it is a tactic to goad and bully those DEMS who voed NO because they did not believe in the package to change their vote.
This is pathetic and another reason why I am thoroughly disgusted with the party I used to love.
You speak of Rove..... he could never pull off what Pelosi and the House DEM leadership pulled off. Blaming the other party???????? Why not look and see why it failed and change it instead of blaming people for why it failed and why even it's supporters were cringing in support of it?
Here's the OHIO Roll call o their votes: More OHIO Dems voted AGAINST it then for it...... The only 7 who voted for it are all retiring this year INCLUDING GOP House Minority leader John Boehner.
The $700 billion Wall Street bailout plan unpopular among Ohio delegation - OPENERS - Ohio Politics Blog by The Plain Dealer
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• Rollcall vote (205-228) of the House of Representatives
WASHINGTON -- Nobody from Ohio liked the $700 billion Wall Street bailout that the House of Representatives defeated on Monday in a 228-205 vote.
Ten Ohio members of Congress voted against the bill: Democrats Dennis Kucinich, Marcy Kaptur, and Betty Sutton and Republicans Steve LaTourette, Steve Chabot, Jim Jordan, Bob Latta, Pat Tiberi, Mike Turner and Jean Schmidt.
Its seven Ohio supporters included every member of the state's congressional delegation who will retire at the end of year -- Republicans Ralph Regula, Deborah Pryce and David Hobson -- along with House Majority Leader John Boehner. Democrats Tim Ryan, Zack Space and Charlie Wilson also backed the plan.
But even those who backed it said they were displeased, but felt they had to support it to avoid a financial catastrophe.
In an emotional speech on the House floor, Boehner urged colleagues to back a bill he called a "mud sandwich" despite their distaste. He argued that defeat would cause unemployment and financial havoc.
"I think the risk in not acting is much larger than the risk in acting," Boehner said.
Regula, of Navarre, said no one "was pleased to be called upon to vote on this bill." But he said he believed "we must take constructive action to bring stability to our financial markets -- markets that directly impact all of us."
Niles Democrat Tim Ryan said he had been "going back and forth all week" on the bill. He decided to back it after talking with retirees worried about their pensions, local business people concerned about their credit lines drying up, and local labor leaders who feared layoffs if credit markets were frozen.
But Kaptur, a Toledo Democrat, said the bill would concentrate more financial power into Wall Street megabanks, and noted that bank failures in the 1980s were resolved without such large-scale federal intervention. She urged Congress to "go back to the drawing board."
"America needs the right deal, not a fast deal," Kaptur said.
Sutton, a Democrat from Copley Township, said she opposed the bill because it failed to protect taxpayers or help families.
"The recent financial crisis facing our country is the result of an arrogant and reckless Bush administration which failed to provide reasonable oversight of our financial markets," Sutton said.
Kucinich, a Cleveland Democrat, said the bill wouldn't give federal authorities any ability to change mortgage terms to help homeowners avoid foreclosures.
"If we had a plan that focuses on saving families' homes, it would actually do more for the economy than this bill," Kucinich said.
LaTourette, a Bainbridge Township Republican, said House negotiators were handed a "pile of garbage" that they tried to make better.
"Something is askew when we give the people who got us into this mess hundreds of billions of dollars to navigate their way out," said LaTourette.
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FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 674
(Democrats in roman; Republicans in italic; Independents underlined)
H R 3997 RECORDED VOTE 29-Sep-2008 2:07 PM
QUESTION: On Concurring in Senate Amendment With An Amendment
BILL TITLE: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide earnings assistance and tax relief to members of the uniformed services, volunteer firefighters, and Peace Corps volunteers, and for other purposes
........Ayes Noes PRES NV
Democratic 140 95
Republican 65 133 1
Independent
TOTALS 205 228 1
---- AYES 204 ---
Ackerman
Allen
Andrews
Arcuri
Bachus
Baird
Baldwin
Bean
Berman
Berry
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blunt
Boehner
Bonner
Bono Mack
Boozman
Boren
Boswell
Boucher
Boyd (FL)
Brady (PA)
Brady (TX)
Brown (SC)
Brown, Corrine
Calvert
Camp (MI)
Campbell (CA)
Cannon
Cantor
Capps
Capuano
Cardoza
Carnahan
Castle
Clarke
Clyburn
Cohen
Cole (OK)
Cooper
Costa
Cramer
Crenshaw
Crowley
Cubin
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
Davis, Tom
DeGette
DeLauro
Dicks
Dingell
Donnelly
Doyle
Dreier
Edwards (TX)
Ehlers
Ellison
Ellsworth
Emanuel
Emerson
Engel
Eshoo
Etheridge
Everett
Farr
Fattah
Ferguson
Fossella
Foster
Frank (MA)
Gilchrest
Gonzalez
Gordon
Granger
Gutierrez
Hall (NY)
Hare
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Herger
Higgins
Hinojosa
Hobson
Holt
Honda
Hooley
Hoyer
Inglis (SC)
Israel
Johnson, E. B.
Kanjorski
Kennedy
Kildee
Kind
King (NY)
Kirk
Klein (FL)
Kline (MN)
LaHood
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Levin
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Lungren, Daniel E.
Mahoney (FL)
Maloney (NY)
Markey
Marshall
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum (MN)
McCrery
McDermott
McGovern
McHugh
McKeon
McNerney
McNulty
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Melancon
Miller (NC)
Miller, Gary
Miller, George
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Murphy (CT)
Murphy, Patrick
Murtha
Nadler
Neal (MA)
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Pallone
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peterson (PA)
Pickering
Pomeroy
Porter
Price (NC)
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Radanovich
Rahall
Rangel
Regula
Reyes
Reynolds
Richardson
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Ross
Ruppersberger
Ryan (OH)
Ryan (WI)
Sarbanes
Saxton
Schakowsky
Schwartz
Sessions
Sestak
Shays
Simpson
Sires
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Snyder
Souder
Space
Speier
Tancredo
Tanner
Tauscher
Towns
Tsongas
Upton
Van Hollen
Velázquez
Walden (OR)
Walsh (NY)
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Weldon (FL)
Wexler
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (OH)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
---- NOES 228 ---
Abercrombie
Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Altmire
Baca
Bachmann
Barrett (SC)
Barrow
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Becerra
Berkley
Biggert
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blumenauer
Boustany
Boyda (KS)
Braley (IA)
Broun (GA)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Buchanan
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Butterfield
Buyer
Capito
Carney
Carson
Carter
Castor
Cazayoux
Chabot
Chandler
Childers
Clay
Cleaver
Coble
Conaway
Conyers
Costello
Courtney
Cuellar
Culberson
Cummings
Davis (KY)
Davis, David
Davis, Lincoln
Deal (GA)
DeFazio
Delahunt
Dent
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Doggett
Doolittle
Drake
Duncan
Edwards (MD)
English (PA)
Fallin
Feeney
Filner
Flake
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Garrett (NJ)
Gerlach
Giffords
Gillibrand
Gingrey
Gohmert
Goode
Goodlatte
Graves
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Hall (TX)
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Heller
Hensarling
Herseth Sandlin
Hill
Hinchey
Hirono
Hodes
Hoekstra
Holden
Hulshof
Hunter
Inslee
Issa
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Johnson (GA)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, Sam
Jones (NC)
Jordan
Kagen
Kaptur
Keller
Kilpatrick
King (IA)
Kingston
Knollenberg
Kucinich
Kuhl (NY)
Lamborn
Lampson
Latham
LaTourette
Latta
Lee
Lewis (GA)
Linder
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Lucas
Lynch
Mack
Manzullo
Marchant
Matheson
McCarthy (CA)
McCaul (TX)
McCotter
McHenry
McIntyre
McMorris Rodgers
Mica
Michaud
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Mitchell
Moran (KS)
Murphy, Tim
Musgrave
Myrick
Napolitano
Neugebauer
Nunes
Ortiz
Pascrell
Pastor
Paul
Payne
Pearce
Pence
Peterson (MN)
Petri
Pitts
Platts
Poe
Price (GA)
Ramstad
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Rodriguez
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Royce
Rush
Salazar
Sali
Sánchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Scalise
Schiff
Schmidt
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Sensenbrenner
Serrano
Shadegg
Shea-Porter
Sherman
Shimkus
Shuler
Shuster
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Solis
Stark
Stearns
Stupak
Sullivan
Sutton
Taylor
Terry
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tiberi
Tierney
Turner
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Visclosky
Walberg
Walz (MN)
Wamp
Watson
Welch (VT)
Westmoreland
Whitfield (KY)
Wittman (VA)
Woolsey
Wu
Yarmuth
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
---- NOT VOTING 1 ---
Weller
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http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml
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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"
Last edited by pan6467; 09-29-2008 at 09:52 PM..
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