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Old 09-28-2008, 12:44 PM   #20 (permalink)
Tully Mars
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Originally Posted by Willravel View Post
Quite frankly, it's not the best circumstance for firearms. You're in close quarters with the subject, you have a lot of people that could wonder into the line of fire, and you have the victim very close to the aggressor.

It's a lot easier to simply render the aggressor unconscious instead of running the risks of things like ricochet or collateral damage. Choking the man won't hurt anyone else.
Yeah I don't know how you shoot him without being concerned about fatally hitting the victim.

As far as coming up with a plan you almost have to plan it to some degree. In this case you know you're going to be approaching from the rear. Unless you wait for the train to stop, doors to open and come around the other side. Myself I wouldn't use a choke hold, just not what I was trained to do, big no no in LE anymore. I'd go for the back of a knee, they only bend one way. Then use his on weight against him and his shoulders to guide him down in the direction I wanted him to fall. Once down a knee in the mid back just below the shoulder blades and a hand holding his wrist palm up. If done correctly he'd be on the ground before he knew what was going on.

But as much as having plan is a good idea, so is not being committed to it. I was going for a move just like this one day. Didn't realize he could see me coming in a mirror and had a baseball bat in his coat. Luckily I was able to move out of the way of his swing and the cement column behind me wasn't. He hit that column so hard I think he damn near broke his wrist. He was real unhappy to be wearing handcuffs that day. "Umm, no I won't loosen your cuffs, you just tried to take me out of the gene pool with a bat."
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