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ASU2003 · 09-27-2008, 10:16 PM

Or are we doomed to be divided 50%/50%? Both candidates are talking about doing good things, but without the other half on board, nothing gets done. If the President asked you to make some sacrifices in your life or change how you do something, would you complain or just do it?

Will the next President be able to convince ~90% of Americans to go along with their ideas? Which ideas do you think sound good to the base during the debates, but don't stand a chance of being implemented? Which ideas do you think the other side will hate and will be actively denounced by the media, activist groups, preachers, congressmen, etc... How should they frame these ideas to get everyone on board (less wasteful spending/earmarks, reduce foreign oil use, better schools,...)?

The way I see it, Obama can't come down too hard on gun control. It may play well to the left, and be good for the inner cities with gun problems. But the NRA and the right won't let anything happen. Universal health care is another one. But, I think this is driven by lies and propaganda by the people who like the current setup and are making lots of money. And it would raise my taxes, but lower my insurance costs. There is a way they could do it right, but I haven't heard it. There would need to be a lot more research into what would work the best and how to setup/convert the current insurance companies into non-profit agencies like the post office, PBS or NPR. There would be some government oversight, but they would still compete and need to meet standards. But most Americans would see it as socialized medicine, they would have to wait weeks to get treated, pay for the unemployed lazy fat guy, and would be limited in what doctor they could see or what treatment they would get.

As for McCain's ideas, off-shore oil drilling in new places will probably happen. I think we would be better off having a larger tax on gas to fund alternative renewable fuels, but I wouldn't be protesting in the streets. As for abortion, if Bush and a republican congress couldn't strike it down, I wonder if McCain would try. I'm sure that he would shift the supreme court further to the right, and that is the biggest thing I don't like about his policy.

So, will you be leaving the country if the guy you want to win doesn't win? Or will you not recognize him and do whatever you want because no one can tell you what to do (economics or guns may force you to change eventually though)?

09-27-2008, 10:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
ASU2003 immoral minority Location: Back in Ohio	Will America come together after this election? Or are we doomed to be divided 50%/50%? Both candidates are talking about doing good things, but without the other half on board, nothing gets done. If the President asked you to make some sacrifices in your life or change how you do something, would you complain or just do it? Will the next President be able to convince ~90% of Americans to go along with their ideas? Which ideas do you think sound good to the base during the debates, but don't stand a chance of being implemented? Which ideas do you think the other side will hate and will be actively denounced by the media, activist groups, preachers, congressmen, etc... How should they frame these ideas to get everyone on board (less wasteful spending/earmarks, reduce foreign oil use, better schools,...)? The way I see it, Obama can't come down too hard on gun control. It may play well to the left, and be good for the inner cities with gun problems. But the NRA and the right won't let anything happen. Universal health care is another one. But, I think this is driven by lies and propaganda by the people who like the current setup and are making lots of money. And it would raise my taxes, but lower my insurance costs. There is a way they could do it right, but I haven't heard it. There would need to be a lot more research into what would work the best and how to setup/convert the current insurance companies into non-profit agencies like the post office, PBS or NPR. There would be some government oversight, but they would still compete and need to meet standards. But most Americans would see it as socialized medicine, they would have to wait weeks to get treated, pay for the unemployed lazy fat guy, and would be limited in what doctor they could see or what treatment they would get. As for McCain's ideas, off-shore oil drilling in new places will probably happen. I think we would be better off having a larger tax on gas to fund alternative renewable fuels, but I wouldn't be protesting in the streets. As for abortion, if Bush and a republican congress couldn't strike it down, I wonder if McCain would try. I'm sure that he would shift the supreme court further to the right, and that is the biggest thing I don't like about his policy. So, will you be leaving the country if the guy you want to win doesn't win? Or will you not recognize him and do whatever you want because no one can tell you what to do (economics or guns may force you to change eventually though)?