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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
I think you misunderstand what is meant by "social liberal." To generalize (at my peril), it should mean to protect the liberties of others (ie, the rights of visible minorities and gays, etc.). What do you think it means?
Oh, I assure you we are friends. What is so shocking about my post? I don't understand your reaction.
And if I've been "ignoring" your posts, it's likely because I've been really busy lately, and quite tired. I apologize. Please point me to anything you with me to address. I've recently stopped being so busy (and tired).
I think maybe you misread my post. I'm not suggesting this wiki represents the mindset of the traditional conservative; I'm saying I think of them when I see things like this...as a way of figuring out how conservatism is balanced within itself. Anyway, I won't speculate further on what upset you; perhaps you can just come out and tell me and we can figure this out.
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Mea culpa, I most certainly misread this entire thread apparently. It isn't the first time I misunderstood a few posts and it won't be the last. I am human. Thank you for your patience and understanding folks. Baraka, it is I who must apologize to you. Sorry for the outburst. And thank you for your post.
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Originally Posted by Jozrael
It is quite possible to respect individuals while condemning the general group, jorge. I feel the same way about conservatives, especially the religious right. I do respect your views here because you present them intelligently and respectfully. If you browse through Conservapedia, you will note that not only are most of the views logically flawed but they certainly are presented with nothing but a thin veneer of respect.
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Yes, you are correct, I jumped the gun a bit and went a bit.."nuts".
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Originally Posted by Halx
jorgelito, you may be highlighting a semantic logjam in communication.
Liberal, socially, typically means someone who is open and free, unrestricted. It is logically uncharacteristic of this mentality to classify or convert others to its side. All this side asks for is the freedom to do what it wants.
Conservative, socially, typically means someone who is strictly conforming to a standard with boundaries. Boundaries do not work if nobody adheres to them, so this side typically seeks to enforce the same boundaries on others around them.
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Yes, I think you may be correct. My intent was to point out a flaw in the play on words and also, to highlight the fact that this does happen sometimes. My liberal friends are constantly trying to "convert" me. In other words, this is not just a conservative thing or a liberal thing. Everyone does it to some extent.
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Originally Posted by CinnamonGirl
Sigh. I live in the midst of Conservative America, so I hear stuff like this all the time. It makes me sad.
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Yeah, I live in liberal California where being conservative is pretty much being the devil. I get so much hate from the liberals out here it's very saddening.
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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
Feel for you, been there done that. Back in 2004 when I openly supported Kerry I had friends, long time friends, who called me everything but American.
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Yeah, I feel you bro. Happened to me too. I have a friend who has threatened to end our friendship if I vote for McCain. I was shocked. This truly hurt me. I don't think there is any excuse or justification for this type of extortion.
My conservative friends aren't exactly happy that I am leaning Obama but they respect me enough not to give me shit for it. It's just my liberal friends who are so fanatical.
P.S. - Never surf TFP while drunk.
The more you know...