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Old 09-27-2008, 11:02 AM   #11 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru View Post
Measure these people by what they do, not what they say in public.
No, I measure ANY man by the company they keep, how well they stick to their beliefs, how much respect they show people and by what they do....

These people are running for the Presidency.... not your mayor.... these are supposed to be the best, brightest and have great plans for the nations future and they are all fucking nuts, dishonest, don't have a true workable direction in which to lead. If any of these 4 people ran 20 years ago they would never have made it out of their second or third primaries.

What has Obama truly done?

McCain has had some great legislation but he has blown his reputation as a uniter and "maverick" totally away and now is just a GOP puppet.

Darth Palin.... the more she talks the more I bang my head against a brick wall wondering how I was duped into liking her at first.

And Biden..... I liked Biden, but the more I see of him he looks like an out of touch ego centric asshole. He did some very great things at one time but now he's the Democratic version of McCain.

So you tell me, who do you trust and why. Cause I just do not see it from any of these 4.
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Originally Posted by Willravel View Post
You didn't throw away your vote, Pan. You're only throwing away your vote if you're not voting for who you want to vote for. If Kucinich were still running, as an independent, Obama would lose my vote in a heartbeat.
I have had this argument with LS. I would love to say that and believe it. But after 2000, I can't anymore.

It's just how I feel.

I want to be inspired in these dark times, I want a leader that can show he is rock hard in his beliefs and has a background to show he doesn't go with party lines he votes for what he feels is best not for him but for the country.

And out of these 4 no one is even close. McCain was at one time but he's just gone nuts now.

I have always been able to find something inspirational in the person I voted for in the past...... this year I can't find even a sliver..... I looked, I begged, I have tried to make slivers only to have them disintegrated not by anyone else but the candidate themself....... I truly am scared of what we have running. First time in my life.

Even in 2000 and 04 I hated Bush, but I wasn't that truly scared. I honestly believe in his eyes he had what he felt was the best intentions for the country. Who he surrounded himself with after and gave power to are different stories.

96 No one can argue Dole wanted what was est for the nation, again, Clinton just had better vision and plans.

92 Bush was carrying on what sold in the past for him but he was trying. Clinton just had better vision and plans.

88 Dukakis was a man with a very good vision and desire to better the nation.... he just lacked charisma.

I don't think any of these 44 truly have any idea or intention of trying to figure out what is best for the country. They have their own agendas and they want the power for their agenda and not one of those agendas do I see truly even in a mask and with the right marketing any intention of helping this country rebuild.

I'm going to go take a bath in Lysol now.... just thinking about this has me feeling infested and dirty.
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