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aceventura3 · 09-25-2008, 08:33 AM

My cynical view:

Here are two possibilities -

If McCain actually believed the economy was fundamentally sound and in fact changed his mind coming to the realization that the financial sector was in a melt down, going to Washington to address the issue, putting the debate and the campaign secondary is the right thing to do.

If Obama believed the economy was not fundamentally strong and was at risk as he campaigned either indicates he did not believe things were as bad as he made them out to be, or did not care enough to go back to Washington, do his job and demonstrate leadership.

So, I try to determine where the truth is and I conclude the following:

The economy is fundamentally strong.
Both candidates know the economy is fundamentally strong.
McCain made the political mistake of saying the economy was strong.
Obama made political points from McCain being honest.
McCain dishonestly backs of of his statement.
There are no political leaders in Washington willing to state the truth about the underlying strength of our economy risking being the butt of endless political jokes and political suicide.
The financial sector panics, compounded by the lack of political leadership, and then looks to Washington for a quick fix. The Bush administration uses hyperbole to promote their plan to address the panic (very similar to the Iraq war, giving Congress an excuse of being pressured or lied too).
McCain being a wily politician recognizes Obama's empty rhetoric regarding Obama's jokes and comments about the strength of the economy and Obama' history of not leading on issues - and takes the dramatic position of saying he is going to go to work to fix the "melt down".
Obama is caught having to say the McCain manuver was purely political (which it was), but to some people (outside of his loyal supporters) makes Obama look like a light weight.

So, in answer to the OP question - the debate has actually already begun. McCain made the first shot and is not playing by "the rules". McCain 1 - Obama 0.

09-25-2008, 08:33 AM	#40 (permalink)
aceventura3 Junkie Location: Ventura County	My cynical view: Here are two possibilities - If McCain actually believed the economy was fundamentally sound and in fact changed his mind coming to the realization that the financial sector was in a melt down, going to Washington to address the issue, putting the debate and the campaign secondary is the right thing to do. If Obama believed the economy was not fundamentally strong and was at risk as he campaigned either indicates he did not believe things were as bad as he made them out to be, or did not care enough to go back to Washington, do his job and demonstrate leadership. So, I try to determine where the truth is and I conclude the following: The economy is fundamentally strong. Both candidates know the economy is fundamentally strong. McCain made the political mistake of saying the economy was strong. Obama made political points from McCain being honest. McCain dishonestly backs of of his statement. There are no political leaders in Washington willing to state the truth about the underlying strength of our economy risking being the butt of endless political jokes and political suicide. The financial sector panics, compounded by the lack of political leadership, and then looks to Washington for a quick fix. The Bush administration uses hyperbole to promote their plan to address the panic (very similar to the Iraq war, giving Congress an excuse of being pressured or lied too). McCain being a wily politician recognizes Obama's empty rhetoric regarding Obama's jokes and comments about the strength of the economy and Obama' history of not leading on issues - and takes the dramatic position of saying he is going to go to work to fix the "melt down". Obama is caught having to say the McCain manuver was purely political (which it was), but to some people (outside of his loyal supporters) makes Obama look like a light weight. So, in answer to the OP question - the debate has actually already begun. McCain made the first shot and is not playing by "the rules". McCain 1 - Obama 0. __________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch." "It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions on vegetarianism while the wolf is of a different opinion." "If you live among wolves you have to act like one." "A lady screams at the mouse but smiles at the wolf. A gentleman is a wolf who sends flowers."