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Originally Posted by Willravel
It was in your first sentence of the thread. And it wouldn't have been the first time that your opinions of Obama have spilled out.
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Like I stated knee jerk reaction. Less knee more jerk.
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I appreciate that very much.  In response to your second point in your first thread, these failures probably won't cause a collapse, just a serious recession. If I recall correctly (from my studies, not personal experience), there were protests during the Great Depression. Loup City comes to mind.
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Ah, but during the Great Depression, the country's neighbors were for the most part very supportive of each other. My grandmother tells me stories of how the neighbors and churches helped each other.
We don't see that much today. It's out there but not advertised and is getting rarer.
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Still, having a military unit instead of police is likely to incite people instead of subdue them. During the WTO protests, I remember the more violent protesters fought back against the militarized police. I can't imagine them doing that if it were a uniformed police presence without gas and such. It's like shouting in an argument; it entrenches the opposition, making a reasonable solution substantially less likely.
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That's why I'm saying it is definitely coming but it will take another generation at most, 2010, 2012 elections as the earliest. It could and may come now, but in small doses with a back down and it would be just to maintain the plan of total destruction.
Right now, there are too many that came up through the 60's - 80's that still have some influence and can still throw wrenches into the works. Money bought out most, death, natural, man caused has taken many.... but there are enough remaining that could be influential and create problems. If the powers that be make their move too fast, people may listen to these "nutcases". BUT if you take your time, work a plan and have contingencies for events that may happen along the way...... but remaining focused on the end result.... it takes time but it can be done. And the "nutcases" are looked at as that and dismissed until it is too late to do anything.
I think the WTO riots, Abu Gharaib and waterboarding, showed people still aren't totally subdued, that there are still some voices out there that can be heard and listened to. It also shows that the majority is pretty much quiet but can still be scared into some form of action.
In the end, It showed them, the powers that pull the puppet strings, that their plan is working but not quite there.
Of course, these are just all ramblings from a "nutcase" who has no idea what is going on.